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   notDusty | Jan 03, 2006 06:31pm | #1

   Hi Marty ,

                Your answer will depend on what machine will be used and whether it is the ends or the sides of the pieces you speak of jigging .

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   mjfurniture | Jan 03, 2006 07:16pm | #2

   Hi

    

       I am building a large round top window, which includes a center arch and fan lights. I'll need to jig up to cut all the internal muttons as well as the sash rails and stiles.  I have both a shaper and large router table and will probable set up to use both of them.  Any and all information is greatly appreciated.   I remember a few years back Fine woodworking did a article on making curved window muttions, but I'll be damned if I can find that issue.  My magazine filing system is not the greatest.

   Marty

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   tarsalas | Jan 05, 2006 03:54am | #3

   Window muttons are tough.  The wool makes it very difficult to see through the windows.

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   notDusty | Jan 05, 2006 08:53am | #4

   tarsalas ,

                       Your too cruel , lol .

                            muntin & mint jelly , maybe not

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   mjfurniture | Jan 05, 2006 04:44pm | #5

   Hi Ewe all

      So this is what I get for FAT fingering the keyboard and not having my wife proof read it before I sent it.  This is nothing compared to the abuse I am getting from her.

     An old sheep herder just can't get any respect

   Marty 

    

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   AndyE | Jan 08, 2006 10:00pm | #6

   I don't think Ican help with your jigging, but the way it was taught to me, if they go up and down they are called mullions and if they go side to side they are called muntins. I don't know what you would call spokes on wheel.Andy"It seemed like a good idea at the time"

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   Kaya | Jan 10, 2006 04:51am | #7

   We've been making doors & windows for 30 years, and to us, a mullion is a member that separates two sash or doors within a frame, while a muntin divides the glazing within a sash. Either one can be horizontal or vertical (or anything in between for that matter).Spokes is spokes!

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   Steinmetz | Jan 29, 2006 01:46am | #8

   Spokes are called RADII

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   AndyE | Jan 29, 2006 01:52am | #9

   Odd how it makes so much sense. Probably why I couldn't think of it. Thanks for that.Andy"It seemed like a good idea at the time"

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   Steinmetz | Jan 29, 2006 03:00am | #10

   Andy, now that all the kidding is over, lets explore making the jigs. Years ago, I had to replace some old muntins and mullions in a sash above my son's barn/carriage house (100+ yrs old)After checking about ten local lumber yards in vain,I resorted to making my own. I ripped several lengths of sugar pine to approximately 1-1/2" square . Then I crosscut about 12 'billets' each a few inches longer than finish length. The 'jig was a long flat board with a recess routed (or dadoed) along it's center about 1/4" deep' and just wide and long enough to accept the billets. Add two nails at the 'waste' ends to steady the stock in place Using an ogee router bit, I created each side of the muntin's shaped edges.Next, do all the rest of the lengths needed (And a few extra)in the same manner.

   The next operation consists of ripping the left and right rabbets in each muntin.for the glass mold on the tablesaw.(USE PUSH STICKS)The trick to keeping this operation working without the work piece rocking in place after the first rabbet is removed and before cutting the second rabbet, is to make a 'filler'piece to
   fit under and in the first rabbet's cut, while rabbeting the muntin's second side.The glass mold can be made similarly, but don't cut any rabbets.
   ( OR. buy the molding in Home depot.) Steinmetz

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   AndyE | Jan 30, 2006 12:27am | #11

   Steinmetz,Thanks for the tips, but you may want to readdress that last post to MJFurniture. It was his original question and post and he may still be looking for a solution.Andy"It seemed like a good idea at the time"

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   Steinmetz | Jan 30, 2006 02:56am | #12

   MJ, Regarding muntin jigs, I replied to Andy by mistake however see this attachment
   Steinmetz

   
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   drewcboggs | Jan 31, 2006 03:37am | #13

   MLCS puts out a Technical Manual which includes instructions for a "carrying jig" for Muntins/Mullions --- I've seen this publication on line but you can call them at 1-800-533-9298 ...
   Good luck