I just finished milling the pieces for my first project and had LOTS of problems and lots of waste due to warping of boards. I bought the lumber as 3 surface sides and it came 1/8th above the dimensions however due to cups and twists in the board it was very difficult for me to joint enough to flatten and totally RESURFACE one face and have enough stock let to plane the other face. I thought to myself…geez I’ll never buy board so close to the dimension I need again.
Then last night…it dawned on me…may i’m not suppose to resurface the WHOLE face of the first side with the jointer. Which brings me to my question.
When jointing the first face of a board do i resurface the whole first face to make the whole first face dead flat (which is what I am doing now)
or
do I just take enough off the first face so that board does not rock and is stable and then use the planer to resurface both the first and second faces by alternating the faces through the planer?
This might seem like a silly question..however i have watched about 4 videos and when they joint there first side all their caulk is gone. which leaves me to believe that when they are flattening the first side they are not only flattening the board but refacing it as well.
Some clarity would be great.
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Hi M71.
You are right on track with your approach. Jointing the face means getting one side of the board perfectly flat (or resurfaced as you called it). Without that flat side to reference against, none of the other sides will be square and true.
There's a couple of things to keep in mind before you even head to the jointer. When you buy lumber BE PICKY. Don't just buy the boards on the top of the pile. Dig through it to find the straightest boards in the stack. And like you said, buy oversized to account for the waste from the milling process. The best material is rough sawn on all four sides, because a 4/4 board will actually be 1-in. thick, which means you have 1/4 of breathing room if you're milling it down to 3/4 in. thick.
Second, store your lumber well when you bring it home. If you don't have a dedicated lumber rack, make sure the boards are stacked flat and stickered to let air circulate between each board. Stickering means placing crosswise scrap pieces in between each board. A straight board will warp if one surface is exposed to moisture in the air and the other side isn't.
Now to the milling process. If you do have a warp in your board, one trick i use is to run the board across the jointer, and when you hear the blade stop cutting, lift the board up and do it again. Then flip the board around and do the same thing to the other end. That will bring the ends down even to the center so that your final pass cuts the entire length of the board. (of course, be careful when lifting the board off the jointer table with the blade running.)
If the board is extremely warped or twisted you can also rip it down the center with your bandsaw, joint those narrower pieces, and then glue them back together. You'll lose less material that way. Similarly, don't joint a long board if you are just going to cross cut it into shorter sections.
Hope that helps. Write back if you want anything clarified.
Matt Berger
Fine Woodworking
Thanks for the quick response matt.
That was a great response.
I guess what i was thinking is the my planer does a great job in providing an parellel on the second face and I'd like that face on my jointed side as well.
So lets say after I joint the board, i then run it through the planer jointed side down. While I'm planning i use chaulk to make sure that the entire surface is planned. After such a time that my chaulk line fully disappears can i then, flip over the board and then do a finish cut with my planner on the jointed side?
-or-
is that a major no no and I should only plane the unjointed side?
Let me get back to you tomorrow. We just had a nasty wind storm blow through town and our entire building went dark (I'm using my battery lap top). Gotta get home to make sure no trees fell over.
- MB
Ok Matt...if they do fall over..stop the truck and grab them. :-)
The wind did a number on us here. It took me two hours to drive six miles home because trees and power lines were down everywhere. I still don't have power at my house! The gas stove came in real handy and we had a feast this morning since we had to eat all the food in the fridge before it goes bad.
Back to your question.
So lets say after I joint the board, i then run it through the planer jointed side down. While I'm planning i use chaulk to make sure that the entire surface is planned. After such a time that my chaulk line fully disappears can i then, flip over the board and then do a finish cut with my planner on the jointed side?
It's perfectly acceptable to flip the board and plane the jointed face after both sides are parallel to one another. All I'm saying is don't plane the second face until the first face is perfectly flat off the jointer.
- matt
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