Hello all, I am looking for plans for a Kernovian style cabinet, perferably he’s latest ones (like this: http://jameskrenov.com/work/306.htm). If anyone could point he in the right direction, I would be very grateful. Thank you.
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Plans would be anathema to Krenov. His work is organic and evolves during the construction. Get his books, that is the best way to learn his work.
I've got to agree with Napie. With Krenov, the design followed the wood. The notion of Krenov plans is the ultimate oxymoron. Check out his books. They are a good read ( I believe there are four out there, one of them being a compendium of his and his students' work). The books will tell you all about the construction techniques, but perhaps more importantly, will also explain his design philosophy. His creative choices were imparted largely from the grain graphics and color of a given board. His designs would also change a lot during the construction process.
BTW that sure is a beautiful cabinet. Those are hand cut veneers over a baltic birch substrate. The veneers were adhered using white glue. The carcass was assembled using dowels, and the drawer dividers were splined in.
Edited 8/21/2006 4:31 pm by kevink
Edited 8/21/2006 4:32 pm by kevink
I am well read on Kernov, and I agree with a lot of your points. The problem I am running into is that this is for a class, and I am needing plans(that I havn't fab'ed myself) in order to continue with the project.It doesn't have to be Kernov per se, but something along the same lines. Thanks again.
Battles: "I am well read on Kernov, and I agree with a lot of your points"
Not quite well-enough read, my friend.....the name is Krenov......K-R-E-N-O-V.
Sorry you are offended, Battles and Mapleman, but the irony of his statement was, just too funny to pass up.
Looks like you got some good answers to your questions.
Edited 8/27/2006 8:55 pm ET by Handrubbed
I was in a rush, as you can see this is only my 3rd post. But thanks for not helping at all. A true gentleman.
Battles,
Don't let it get to you. I misspelled his name on another thread about a plane of his on Ebay and some bozo kept posting me to let me know I misspelled it. Who cares. By the way, love the sense of sarcasm. But thanks for not helping at all. A true gentleman You sound just like me.
Lee
You should have enough respect to try to spell a person's name correctly and when corrected you should not be so arrogant as to think you are correct. There is a right way to spell somebody's name and you missed it. So have enough humility to own up to it.
MR. KRENOV: No, everything was done by me. We just had to do the artwork when I came to New York. They used to have me come over and I’d stay there two, three, four weeks and we’d do the artwork – illustrations, you know. We’d sort them out and so on. But I wrote everything. It was done; they just had to correct some of my horrible spelling. I never learned to spell. I can look up a word in the dictionary at 10:00 this morning and by now, 4:00 in the afternoon, I can’t spell it. Was it two R’s or was it one R? You know, was it two T’s and an E, or T-E-T?
Are you going to trash your idol for his spelling too?
Here is a link to the interview/oral history.
http://www.aaa.si.edu/collections/oralhistories/transcripts/krenov04.htm
Since the house is on fire let us warm ourselves. ~Italian Proverb
The only way to this type of furniture is to look at your timber en work around your timber size.
make a drawing to look if the proportions are good ( you do not have to use his sizes) and start making it.
Some of my work is from people who have a photo and want something similar made.
As a chair maker, I do a mock-up to see if the form is good and if it sits good, the same strategy I use for cabinets etc.
When in not sure make a mock-up in scrape timber and look at the overall form.
But for your first cabinet I would only use scrap timber and experiment with forms and constuction.
cheerio bernhard
Was this for me or meant to be addressed to a different poster in this thread?
Since the house is on fire let us warm ourselves. ~Italian Proverb
Sorry about the posting, posted it on the wrong message , must have had a senior moment.
Have a nice day
Knowing James Krenov personally I find him to be a very humble man and is willing to be corrected. Someone corrected you and you still have not learned. Part of humility is being willing to be corrected. It is not a matter of who can spell and who cannot. It is all about respect and attitude.
Dear gb94363,
I mean gb93rst, err...... or is it gb36472Let's all get a sense of humor- the fellas in the sawstop discussion are cutting hotdogs 4petesakeI think we would all do well to remember that others (many others) are reading these posts to try to learn, relax, and enjoy life.Dave
I do not believe I was the "corrected" party. As to the last.. I think Monty Python said it best, "I fart in your general direction".
Since the house is on fire let us warm ourselves. ~Italian Proverb
GB,
You sound as if you have taken it as a personal insult. Maybe it is you who are arrogant as well. I misspelled the guys name. I will repeat - SO WHAT. It was an honest mistake. In fact, for 12 years, I thought his name was Krevnov. And I have 3 of his books. Boy was that stupid on my part. There, you happy? Is that enough humility? Do I owe Jimmy an apology card? The arrogance is in the tone of the person doing the correcting. You should have enough respect to try and spell someone's name correctly. I do not believe unintentionally misspelling someones name constitutes disrespect. And I was not arrogant because I thought I was correct, I was arrogant because of the way you people act over something as stupid as a spelling mistake. Like this is life or death. It's a woodworking forum, for crying out loud.
Lee
Krenov always did mock ups with new pieces. Go to the lumber yard and buy some 2X4s and cut and screw them together with drywall screws.
Hi Battles,Here are two options:1. A guy named Chris Swingley put together some plans for a solid wood wall cabinet that was based on a Krenov design. You can download the plans here: http://www.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu/~cswingle/woodworking/display_cabinet.php
2. Krenov was a proponent of putting together mock-ups of his pieces before constructing them. You could create a simple model of your piece using scraps, screws, and hot glue. The model would essentially serve as your plans.I'm curious - why doesn't your instructor want you to use your own plans?Regards,K
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