L-N Improved Chipbreaker and S. Baileys
I just picked up a Lie Nielsen Improved Chipbreaker and blade (.095″) for my 1910 Stanley Bailey #7. Having a bit of a time getting it to work. Before I start filing away, I thought I’d query whether anyone else has tried it??
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I have a LN #5 with the improved chipbreaker and love it. What kinds of problems are you having?
-Jazzdogg-
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Hi,
What sort of problem are you facing with the new L-N chip breaker & blade?
You should not have any problem save that you may have to open up the mouth of the #7 a little at a time.
May be it would help if I relate my experience on improved chip breaker and blade.
I had some problems when first time used improved chip breaker and blade from Clifton to improved my Record #5 jack plane. I had to open up the mouth or else the thicker blade do not have an opening.
After, I've done that, I face another problem with this combination of both thicker chip breaker and replacement blade. I had problem in adjusting the depth of the blade. The Y-piece lose its contact with the small rectangle hole in the chip breaker as I adjust the blade downward. I can't make fine adjustment of the blade after a certain level. It makes adjustment of the blade very frustrating.
To remedy the problem, I used two other set up: (1) The original chip breaker with the (thicker) replacement Clifton blade or (2) the original Record blade with the (thicker)Clifton chip breaker. Both set up cured the adjustment problem, however, my problem is I end up with a larger mouth then expected. Remember it I started with using both thicker replacement chip breaker and blade. It was am expensive lesson.
May I suggest you can consider getting the L-N replacement A2 blade for your #7. Note this replacement is not the same as the A2 replacement blade for L-N #7 jointer which is much thicker than the original #7 blade. The one I'm suggesting is thicker than the original Stanley or Record blade but not too thick that will create a problem with the blade adjustment which I've mentioned earlier. I hope you got the right one.
With both the L-N replacement blade and chip breaker, you will be in a better position to decide how big you need to open the mouth of your #7.
After my experience with the thicker Clifton replacement chip breaker and blade, I got myself a replacement L-N chip breaker and L-N blade for my #5. No problem with blade adjustment and the A2 blade is very good. As mentioned earlier about opening the mouth, I could not cure the little larger mouth of my #5 by then. I only wish L-N came up with their chip breaker before I ordered the Cifton replacement.
Cheers
epo
Thanks all. I just returned from the shop and somehow the whole setup works fine. Originally I think the adjustment screw was advanced too far forward, and after I backed it off eveything fit just fine. It's working great and I recommend the retrofit for any stanley plane.
rajikhalaf,
Good for you. I got a Clifton iron and back iron for my Record #7 and had no troubles. However, there are some Stanley and Record planes on which you can't use a thicker iron.
The problem is (as one poster said) the depth adjustment yoke isn't long enough to reach through the thicker iron and engage its slot in the back iron. On those planes there's nothing to be done unless you can find a longer yoke that will work on your frog.
In one of their helpful notes in a Highland Hardware catalog, they specified what various dimensions had to be on a plane for a thicker iron to work. I haven't seen it since, but they may be able to help with a phone call.
Alan
Actually, the yoke on my 1910 Stanley is engaging well. Good enough for adjustment anyway. I'm using the thinner L-N blade. I don't adjust my frog since I use my #7 for edge jointing 99% of the time. And I never take cuts agressive enough to warrant backing the frog up.
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