Laguna Dust Collectors — Update expected early 2022
beerymr
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I’ve seen teasers from Laguna noting that the C Flux and P Flux dust collectors are “no longer available” with “new models expected early 2022”.
Does anyone have any details?
What is expected to change?
When is availability expected?
I’m trying to decide whether to wait or move on to other vendors.
Thanks,
Monte
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I own a P-Flux 1.5 hp because I was limited on electrical space and didn't want to take the time to put a subpanel in and regret it. If I had it to do over again I would go with Onieda. The P-Flux has been a great disappointment it's not Laguna's fault that it is probably underpowered for my shop but the design, although striking, leaves a lot to be desired. The sensor that is supposed to alert to the drum being full has never worked and if the bag becomes full it quickly fills the fine dust canister and creates a major mess and the canister is difficult to empty. On top of this assembly took the better part of an entire day for 2 people with many tiny screws.
I don't know what changes are in store but some are definitely needed.
I'll second Onieda. They make it here, they have great customer support. Stock all needed fittings and pipe. They will also design your system based on your shop layout. I purchased one of their dust gorillas several years ago and couldn't be happier.
I installed a C flux in my shop a couple years ago. I really like it and would buy another. Probably I would get the next size up but I don't anticipate needing another one unless I sell this shop gear with the house.
Monte - I hope you don't mind me asking:
What model Oneida do you guys have?
If it is a Supercell what size drum do you recommend?
I have the 2hp dust gorilla collector. 8" trunk line. It was ducted to:
16" Planer
16" Jointer
Scm Shaper
18" Bandsaw
12" panel saw
Unisaw
Powermatic double drum sander
It's a one man shop so I use blast gates at all machines. It works fine at all locations. I have designed a system much larger than this in the past as it's fairly simple. Oneida will do it at no charge so I just sent them a dimensioned floor plan of the shop with machine locations and the duct size at each. They sent me a drawing of the ductwork and a list of needed components. I bought all from them one shot. No problems.
They were selling 2 drums made of heavy fiberboard. I bought the larger of the two about 40 gallons any smaller than this and you will hate yourself for it. I use a 42 gal contractors 3mil heavy bag from the big box stores inside very inexpensive. A vacuum pump is connected to the bottom of the drum to keep the bag from being sucked up into the cyclone. They don't sell this arrangement now but have steel drums with heavy drum liners to drop inside the bag to keep it open instead of a pump, a much better arrangement. With that said when I am milling wood for a project it fills up very fast. I don't do as much now but I still may upgrade to 55 gal in the future.
As far as your exact requirements are concerned, this forum is the last place I would go for that. Email Oneida a sketch of your machine layout, phone them and they will give you accurate advice.
If you want to design your own or to educate yourself. This should provide all the info you need. They are also a good source for pipe, fittings and hose.
https://airhand.com/dustcollectioninfo/
Good luck
I use the Oneida Supercell for my one person shop with machines spread out between 2 basement rooms with relatively low ceilings and limited areas for ducting. It is a huge upgrade from my previous Powermatic 1 1/2 HP single stage system and it perfectly addressed my real challenges.
With that said, the 14 gallon drum is way too small for a jointer or planer. I sometimes use 3 bags over a weekend and felt fortunate to buy bags which fit in bulk. With the 14 gallon drum the sensor which flashes when the drum is full is almost useless. The filter is cumbersome to check and also clean. The ductwork assembly using quick clamps was easy, but the 4x4x4 TEE gates manufactured by Oneida really didn't come together right even after replacements from Oneida. The remote control doesn't work well unless it is in line-of-sight. The system generates heat which is only nice in the winter.
Bottom line is the Supercell is great if your shop area has constraints.
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