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   BarryO | Apr 28, 2005 08:05pm | #1

   FWIW, Grizzly has a shop design app on their website.  It has outlines for Grizzly tools (naturally).  But if even you're not planning an all-Grizzly shop, you can just pick the outline of a grizzly tool with a similar size and shape as the tool you own.

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   Abe | Apr 28, 2005 08:11pm | #2

   Thanks

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   MarkRD | Apr 28, 2005 08:58pm | #3

   I endorse the paper cut-out approach.draw out a scale floor plan, cut out your tools and workbenches to scale then shuffle around until you get a floor plan you like (fits your work flow, easy dust collection etc...)Of course there is always the - put the tool here and see how it works, move it again when you don't like what you learned,
   move it again, and again, and again...Mark

   Measure it with a micrometer, mark it with chalk, cut it with an ax.

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   kenshep | Apr 29, 2005 12:59am | #4

   If you can read a visio file, i'll send you some.

    

   Regards,

   Ken

   "Do as you would be done by." C.S. Lewis

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   Patto | Apr 29, 2005 06:20am | #5

   Yes please (me too)

   Thanks

   David

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   kenshep | Apr 29, 2005 06:44pm | #6

   I could convert to autocad from visio, so I have both versions, how do I transfer them to you? 

   Regards,

   Ken

   "Do as you would be done by." C.S. Lewis

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   WadeH | Apr 29, 2005 10:34pm | #9

   I have a stupid question, what is visio. Is it some sort of CAD program. Just curious because I am trying to layout a new shop and all of you were talking about. Thanks.

   Wade

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   MarkRD | Apr 29, 2005 11:08pm | #10

   Visio is a drawing program put out by Microsoft. (MS Bought the company a few years ago).ANyway, its a pretty powerful program and overkill for lots of applications but I've seen it used for just about everything from project plans to floor plans...Mark

   Measure it with a micrometer, mark it with chalk, cut it with an ax.

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   Patto | May 02, 2005 06:45am | #17

   Flat page drawing tool, that Microsoft have done some wierd things too since buying it.

   The only disadvantage I have found with this tool so far is that I cant find a 3d capability - you still have to draw plan-section-elevation and isometric.

   David

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   kenshep | Apr 30, 2005 12:00am | #13

   It is a drawing program that is like MS Paint, but has some additional features...Paint comes with Windows XP/2000, and other versions.  Visio was purchased by microsoft a while back.  For a better review of it I suggest http://www.microsoft.com

   Here's the direct link: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/FX010857981033.aspx 

   Regards,

   Ken

   "Do as you would be done by." C.S. Lewis

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   Patto | May 02, 2005 06:35am | #16

   In visio to the 'reply by email' will work fine. I dont have a choke on that particular pipe.

   Thanks,

   David

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   forestgirl | Apr 29, 2005 07:19pm | #7

   Here's a site with Visio woodworking tool templates.http://home.comcast.net/~hchute/woodshop_visio.htm

   If you go to the bottom of the page, there's also a link to sample shop layouts that people have sent to him.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)Another proud member of the  "I Rocked With ToolDoc Club" .... :>) 

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   BarryO | Apr 29, 2005 11:09pm | #11

   Thanks for the link!  This is great.

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   WillGeorge | May 03, 2005 06:26pm | #20

   Forest.. Thank you..

   I got the templates.. I have looked alot on the web and never found any..

   Must be that woman's touch!

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   WillGeorge | Apr 29, 2005 09:49pm | #8

   preferably on CAD??

   Gee.. I'd move ALL the tools in and tell the wife 'ya need a shop!'

    

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   kenshep | Apr 29, 2005 11:34pm | #12

   I downloaded the stencil from forestgirl referenced link and it is better than my offer.  I suggest you go there for the stencils.  There are many different icons available.

   I have also converted this to autocad via visio (template, drawing and interchange files).  Let me know which format you want and where to send it and i will pass it along.

   Additionally, I could convert it to a jpeg image file with the icons/objects available for cutting and pasting to MS Paint.  (See under Programs/Accessories in Windows if you are unfamiliar with this tool).

   Regards,

   Ken

   "Do as you would be done by." C.S. Lewis

   
   

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   WillGeorge | May 01, 2005 03:34pm | #14

   So I am thinking that I need to get a real plan down before I get started preferably on CAD..

   Nothing wrong with that idea..  BUT.. I would just move the tools in the place and see what happens.. If it all fits in there THEN use the CAD program to optimize!

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   kenshep | May 02, 2005 04:26am | #15

   That works.  If you are planning piping for you dust collection system, that can be a head ache to move.  I have a small shop, so I have looked at several articles of professional woodworking writers/editors and have copied some of their layouts.

     Also, I travel a fair amount on business, so I like to doodle on my computer on the plane or in my hotel room about shop layout.  I've done the bird's eye perspective with paper and also drawn all walls from a straight on perspective. 

   The best thing I did for my hobby was to partition one wall off in my garage, (3 car).  This gave me two sides of the wall to use for additional storage.  All the bikes are up, the rakes/shovels, etc...  On the shop side, I built a lumber rack and have room to hang cabinets, jigs, and tools.  The door is on a trolley track so neither side has to give up the swing space.  I'll be doing the cyclone option on the dust collector.  Probably Grizzly.  I want to go to the .5 micron level due to dust sensitivity. 

   Regards,

   Ken

   "Do as you would be done by." C.S. Lewis

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   WillGeorge | May 03, 2005 06:23pm | #19

   Sorry.. I was just sort of funnin' ya..

   I just did that to my little garage shop.. I moved the tools in and placed them where 'I THOUGHT' would be OK.. Then I thought ALOT about it and changed things..

   I guess I just got a better prospective working a project with my current setup and wrote down what I didden't like.. THEN went to a lay-out program..

   I guess it is 'just me'.. I only learn by doing..

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   forestgirl | May 02, 2005 06:48am | #18

   Doesn't work for those of us who need help from the brawny part of the family either.  I can only ask my hubby to "help me move this 250# tool" so many times.  Besides that, he always thinks he knows better than me what I'm trying to do, LOL!

   I had great fun at the Grizzly site last week, moving things around, spinning them and such.  Very cool and easy to use program!  Only problem was, I had to use a sink for my miter saw, since they didn't have an icon for one.  Too funny.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)Another proud member of the  "I Rocked With ToolDoc Club" .... :>)