Hello I recently attended a woodworking show where i saw an ornamental mill in action. i know they have been around for a few years but i had never seen one before, i gotta saw i was pretty impressed. i really like the slow movements of this machine as compared to a sometimes scary lathe. I’m wondering if other people have experience with one of these ornamental mills by legacywoodworking.com, or do any of you own one? how do you like it, etc. thanks, Dan.
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I have the L1000EXL 80" with the floor stand package and like it a lot.
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Samuel P. Huntington
THAT'S IT? You like it alot LOL!! Man of few words I see.
I've look at their machines alot & have been very impressed although when you go the wood working shows & all the bright lights, a person could buy two or three of everything, kinda like drugs I guess, so I've been told.
Please expand on your likes & dislikes & maybe explain the types of things you've created. also, do you use it for business or personal work?
I was wondering if I could make money making custom order parts for other shops or one of a kind stuff.
Or if all the big CNC type, $200,00.00 & up machines would out compete me.
Just kicking it around.
Thanks for any other input you may have
Paul
Edited 3/7/2007 6:48 pm ET by CardiacPaul
Was tight for time when I replied! I use it for business, small volume custom stuff, tapered & fluted columns and half columns etc. Also have done some barley twist work on it.
It has not gotten as much work as my two conventional lathes have but what I've done on it has paid very well. The first job I did on it paid for the machine. I can't think of any dislikes off the top of my head. I'm going to make my own motor drive since the one from Legacy is a lot of money for off the shelf components.
The learning curve isn't too bad and the videos that come with it are pretty good. I'm sure the CNC shops could blow me out of the water on big volume jobs but I find I'm very well situated for small custom runs. Big shops often have big lead times and often that gives me an edge.
Anything else I can tell you, jusk ask away! ------------------------------------
"The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact, non-Westerners never do."---------------Samuel P. Huntington
I figured you were tight for time on your first post, your short answer just struck me funny at the time.
Thank you for your follow up information, I found it interesting. I would think you could be competative with the big CNC machines as they all have rather large set up fees which dosent pay on small or even medium size runs.
Thanks again.
Paul
Paul,I purchased a 1200 at the end of last year, but I have not had that much time on it yet. I bought it during a sale, with the intention of using it for a few big projects... So I can offer you only a newbie perspective. I was skeptical to buy one because like you, I believe that everything looks great at a trade show...In fact the first time I saw a live demo I walked away from 'that gimmick'. I actually ended up making the purchase on the recommendation of a gent who teaches lathe turning classes for a business that sells woodworking machinery....For the price I think that it is a very good performer and the simplicity of the design and operation make it great for the small shop woodworker who wants to be able to offer small production, custom turning work. I have heard more than one reviewer say that it paid for itself with their first job...As a previous poster noted, there is some slop in the gears, etc... so the Legacy is not in the league of a precision computer controlled CNC machine. It is not a precision joinery machine, but I believe that it's more than accurate enough for it's intended purpose.Legacy's setup and introductory turning vidoes are very good. If you're considering buying one, you should definitely check these out.Cheers,Michael
Dang it let us see a picture of this thing (,)Philip Marcou
Dan,
Here's a non-company sponsored website of Legacy owners that pick each other's brain for experience and ideas. The decoration of reeding, coving, tapering, as well as solid or hollow spiral twists really has to be thought out, lest you make a design that overwhelms the rest of project it was made for. Also, even though it has gear ratios to adjust the length of twists, the thin stamped metal gearing has some play so you can only do your cutting in one direction. If you try to backup, the "play" in the gearing won't 100% track back, so the cutting design isn't sharp or identical.
http://groups.google.com/group/Legacy-Ornamental-Mills
Product Home Page: http://legacywoodworking.com/products.cfm?product=5
By the time you pay for the Model 1200 machine that makes up to a 6' long decorative spindle, the shipping, basic starter set of specialized router bits, the 3+hp router, you'll have over $3,500 invested. When you get tired of turning the crank by hand, you can buy a gearbox DC motor, speed control, and safety stops for another $900. Some have built their own, but it still cost them around $450....
Hope this helps you decide if you're ready for a machine of this nature,
Bill
Edited 3/7/2007 10:00 pm ET by BilljustBill
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