Let’s clear the air about Pics on Knots
There seems to be many issues with regard to posting pictures on Knots. So here is my attempt to clear the air so to speak. If anyone finds errors/omissions or something they would like to add, please chime in. I will split this into 2 posts as it might be rather long.
This is just MHO, not gospel and I am human and therefore sometimes make mistakes, so here goes.
The first thing I do is organize my pics. I first created a Folder on my PC called Woodworking. Inside I created sub-Folders, if you will, that alow me to categorize the pics; for example Woodshop, Projects, Pics for Knots, etc.
My digital camera is set to the highest resolution so these pics/files tend to be rather large. So the first thing I do is resize them using Irfanview. Launch Irfanview and select File from the menu bar then Open. Browse Windows around till you find the pic you want to post. Once you’ve found it and Opened it, select Image from the Menu bar at the top and then select Resize/Resample.
In the Units (see below) section it is set to pixels by default. I change this to Inches as it is easier for me to work with inches. You metric oriented folks might prefer mm. A good size for Knots is 7-9 inches in Width. Once you select inches the size boxes will change so you can change accordingly. You do this by changing the inches in the Width box and the length will change proportionally.
After Resizing, select File – Save As, making sure Irfanview is pointing to the right directory. This is key so you can easily find them. Again you may have to manipulate Windows to point to the right Folder. I usually name them with FWW_PicName.JPG. The FWW tells me that they’ve been resized when I go to Attach them in Knots.
Also, make sure you have the file type set to JPEG(JPG) and NOT .BMP. .BMP files tend to be quite large and resizing them generally doesn’t shrink them very much if at all. A better format to use is JPEG(JPG) which are compressed image files.
Pardon my spelling.
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
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Now on to Knots.
After you've authored your message, at the bottom of the screen there is an Attach Files button. Click on this and a Taunton dialogue box appears (See Attach Dialogue Box below). Here is where you tell Knots where to find your file/pic. Click on the Browse button and a Windows dialogue box appears. See Choose File below).
Select the file you want and then click Open in the Windows dialogue box. Once done you should be returned to the Knots dialogue box. (See File Selected below). Note the message in the box to the left of the Browse button.
At this point click on Upload and then wait. This may take several seconds depending on your connection speed to the Internet. There should be a progress bar on the bottom telling you that the file/pic is being upoaded.
When done you will see After Upload as below. This step is key to your success. It must be completed B4 you can continue. I purposefully uploaded a .BMP file for this pic. If you look at it (901KB) it's really too large to post for the dial-up impaired. Also it takes a lot of space on Tauntons servers, so be kind here.
After this you can either select another file/pic by repeating the above steps or click on Done in the Taunton dialogue box. This will close the Attach dialogue box and return to your post/message.
At the bottom you will see a Preview button that will show you what your message will look like and a Revise button should you want to make any changes. You can't do anything with the files at this point but you can after it is posted.
Let's say you posted the wrong file/pic and you want to delete it. Simply Edit your message and at the bottom of the resulting dialogue box you will see a Manage Files button. Select it and it will give you a screen listing your attachments. Click the o to the left of the fole and then click Delete Attachment and it will be deleted.
I hope I didn't leave anything out but if so please slap me and I'll fix it! Also, if others have inputs chime in. We all want to help, right!?
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
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OK folks, now can/will someone please supply instructions/suggestions as how to post in the message body pics, or what I call in-line pics? After looking at some it appears that the pics are actually HTML links.
Also, are there any questions regarding any of the previous posts in this discussion?
Regards,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Here is one method of how it's done over in Breaktime. http://forums.taunton.com/tp-breaktime/messages?msg=77285.2
Bob, I did just that somewhat earlier in the thread: http://forums.taunton.com/fw-knots/messages?msg=36992.25 :)Thats how to do it NOT using Internet Explorer. Using IE (You can see the "Paragraph" and other controls above the text area) I would:1 - Attach the file as explained earlier in the thread2 - Press "preview"-button3 - Left-click on picture icon so that the picture loads4 - Right-click the picture and choose "Copy" in the menu5 - Click "Back" (the back arrow at the top of you browser) to see your message in preview again6 - Click "Revise"7 - Move the cursor to where you want the picture and paste (Ctrl+V or edit>paste or right-click>paste, :) ) 8 - Post at will...One of the guys at BT recommended "the Sandbox" a trial area to play around in: "The place to play with Prospero's discussion-board tools. This is a temporary forum, so use it like you would a scrap paper- don't worry about mistakes." http://forums.taunton.com/tp-thesandbox
Cowsine,
Yeeks, these old fart moments are coming on more often than I don't remember..?..?..?..?
DUH to me!
Regards,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
See this post at Breaktime. IMHO, the size of the pictures is aggravating as heck. If posting pics in-line with the thread, at least edit them down so they don't create cruising problems.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
<<See this post at Breaktime.>>forestgirl,I've seen much worse, though that example pretty much says it all. I agree that oversized attachments are aggravating and I often won't bother scrolling to view the entire image. But, to many posting here, the concept of physical size (inches or cms or whatever vs. pixels, and pixels per inch/cm) is quite foreign. That's not a criticism. I would guess that most who include attachments, do so infrequently and have little need to know much about image preparation or the software required. So it kind of is what it is. Out-of-focus images is another issue -- don't get me started on that. Perhaps when this thread reaches 100 posts, there should be a pop quiz where everyone who has participated is required to post with an attachment -- no grading on a curve --just pass/fail. Those who fail must repeat this thread. Mike
"I agree that oversized attachments are aggravating...." Not to nitpick (well, ok, yes to definitely nitpick) -- it's the fact that it's not an attachment that makes it a big PITA. What you see there is exactly why I've never posted instructions for making in-line pictures. If it's not done with some judicious resizing, they're a pain. forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
Attachment or insertion in the text, it makes no difference to me. If I have to scroll, I lose interest very quickly. But as annoyances go, I guess this is fairly low on the scale -- but still annoying.
Well, I must say I think defining an oversized attachment as a big PITA, might be a slight exaggeration. If they popped-up and filled the screen from edge to edge and then wouldn't go away for 20 minutes or so, unless one stood on one's head singing "I love, I love, pop-ups!" I might have agreed with the big PITA denomination.
Since it only takes a spin or two of that small wheel between the mouse buttons to get past these horrors made by those of lesser knowledge I find I can usually cope.
;-)
I guess my background in writing and presenting written materials makes me a bit "pickier" than others? It's so simple to make a photo that's easily visible, and more likely to be viewed than ignored. Oh well.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
I can most certainly agree that slapping a gigantic picture in the middle of text is bad layout and won't draw viewers, but the web as a whole is not exactly well kept so I guess it wears you down. What I find more annoying is the large amounts of badly made DIY DTP that gets printed and distributed, but pet peeves do vary I'm told. :)
Hi Everyone,
Had some work to do this past weekend at the cottage. Mother nature put on a light show (thunder & lightning) that was incredible. No damage but did raise the hair on the back of my neck! Tried to get some pics but no luck.
Well, it seems that everyone is having fun with this discussion and hopefully it contributed/benefitted those who were pic posting challenged. I think it's great that we can all share our experience even though this topic reaslly isn't about fine woodworking.
Thanks for all the contributions. If there's anything we've left out or hasn't been explained let's hear from y'all.
Regards,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
I know what DYI is, what's "DTP"? Or is it a censored term? ;-)forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
forestgirl,
I don't know what DYI is but DTP might be DeskTop Publishing? DYI - Drawing Yoda Images?
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
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Bob's right, Desktop Publishing, and DIY, Bob, would be Do It Yourself.
If those acronyms needs to be censored, the beholder is to be blamed. ;-)I just had to look for alternative meanings for DTP. There are a few:DIY Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis (vaccine) - biological warfare as a pastime?DIY Dynamic Trunking Protocol - choreography for Baby Elephant Walk?DIY Disjunctive Temporal Problem - I'm at a loss...
I have Disjunctive Temporal Problem, that's why I'm always late! ;-)forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
I have Dysfunctional Thought Process and I can't remember why I'm writing this...
I guess I'll have to go find myself...should I get back before I return, please have me wait.
sirhC.
BOB, What a thread: I dont think I've learnd as much since I was at school(where I did@nt learn too much anyway)It's been brillent.
Now that I have some idea how to post pictures I dont have anything made to post. What with makeing all the jigs ,arranging and rearranging the Shed, then getting used to this computer thing,I've discovered I havent a thing to show .So It's off to the Shed and make some sawdust.Jeez where did I see an article on dust extraction.
Thanks to you and everyone at Knots for the Master Class On how to post a picture "if you have one" .
An old Irish Blessing for you all, May you be in Heaven a year before the Devil knowes your dead, Regds. Boysie Slan Leat.I'm never always right but i'm always never wrong. Boysie
KVA:
Your screen cap shows settings for pixels, not inches per your post. Might wanna fix it?
Mike Hennessy
Pittsburgh, PA
Mike,
Thanks. Wish there were a way to Edit posts and replace and/or delete and post a new pic, but I haven't found a way.
Anyway, here is the way the Resize box will look when changed to inches.
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Bob, I think (as mentioned in the other thread) that focusing on pixels as the unit is less likely to cause problems (due to differing camera settings between people). Generally speaking, 300-400 pixels wide works pretty well on Knots to fit into the right-hand frame of their site.
Also, a very important step in picture editing for the web is cropping the picture. Most pics that I see here and on other forums have extraneous junk around the main subject of the pic that unnecessarily increases the file size.
"Most pics that I see here and on other forums have extraneous junk around the main subject"
Hey now! If yer talkin' about any of MY pics, that "extraneous junk" IS the main subject! ;-)
Mike HennessyPittsburgh, PA
Mike,
I hear ya.
I think forestgirls remark was entirely uncalled for.
The pretty much precludes me showing any pics taken in my woodshop! Mine isn't exactly surgery room clean as I'm sure all the other Knotheads shops are.
I'll fix her. Hey forestgirl, I just got 6 more solid core doors for $10!
HUGE GRIN HERE!
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
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Bob, I think it was you that said in a previous post that Knots was the place to go to if you needed any help. You could not have said truer words,
I've been wondering for sone time now how to put pictures with posts ,relax I'm not ready yet I'm still at the planning stages as yet. You nave a real greenie here, Is it possible for me to print thoes instructions from your posts ,or is there a book that I can get that will show how this is done.
I have a book WINDOWS XP for DUMMIES but I cant find what you have just explained so if there is one for EEJITS THAT SOME ONE knows adout please let me know. Regds. Boysie Slan Leat,I'm never always right but i'm always never wrong. Boysie
At the bottom left of the post, you'll see a button labeled "options". Move your mouse over it. "Print Message" is one of the options.
Mike HennessyPittsburgh, PA
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Mike, many thanks for your post , was'ent to sure about that I had looked . Will give it a go. Regds. Boysie Slan Leat .I'm never always right but i'm always never wrong. Boysie
boysie99,
Do whatever you wish with my post.
It is meant to help all the folks here on Knots. Please let me know if there is anything contained in it that you don't understand and I'm sure we all can help you out. My goal is to produce something that all will feel comfortable using.
And, I like seeing the pics!
Regards,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Hi ALL,
forestgirl and I were having a discussion in another post regarding picture size in pixels vs my suggestion to use inches. So as to keep the details in one place I have copied my response over here so we can all see it and please, if anyone has inputs, please post them here.
My goal is to provide as complete as we can, details that will make it easier for all Knots participants to be able to post their pictures.
Also, you MAC experts out there, please offer your thoughts regarding posting pics on Knots.
forestgirl,
There are just too many variables that are uncontrollable from the perspective of the user that it would be nearly impossible to have everyones pics come out the same on any given monitor.
What I am/was attempting to do is to offer an easy way to get it close. Also, depending on how you want your pics to appear has an influence as well. For example, using the Derek Cohen/your method, where his pics appear within the verbage of his posts vs seperately at the bottom.
I somewhat understand the principals of PPI, DPI, etc. but it's impossible to make pics appear the same on any given monitor. Look at a pic in your normal mode, i.e. 1024 x 768, then change the settings in Control Panel to 640 x 480 and look at the pic again.
If you have the time, I think it would be nice if you could post instructions on how to post what I call in post pictures, but please do it in my Lets Clear the Air discussion so all this is in one place, OK?
Many thanks,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Note for MAC users:In iPhoto, click "File", then "Export". An Export box will appear with an option to "Scale images no larger than". Select that option and enter "300' in the first box. This will yield an image which is good for Konot heads of all persuasions.Click "Export" and you will be asked for a destination. I always select "Desktop" which makes it easy to find your pic when it comes time to perform the ballet Bob has outlined above.FrostyP.S. As long as we are explaining 'process' here, how do I add a tag line to my posts? I'm jealous.
Frosty,
An easy way to do it is to click on MY FORUMS at the top of the discussion where it says START|MESSAGES|OUTLINE|MY FORUMS. From there on the left is My Profile, My Preferences, etc. It's in My Preferences in the Signature box.
Regards,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Thanks Bob.Frosty - Jerry FrostFrosty"I sometimes think we consider the good fortune of the early bird and overlook the bad fortune of the early worm." FDR - 1922
Well, I'll tell ya what...
I push the button on the machine thingy under the desk. It whirs, it buzzes and grinds. It beeps and vibrates and the TV thing on the top of the desk comes to life.
When everything seems to be ready I sit down, move the little mousey thing around and it, in turn, moves the little arrow on the TV screen and when I get it to point at what I'm aimin' at I click one of the buttons on the mousey thing (sometimes I even push the right one on the first try).
Whatever it is that I wanted to look at or read comes up and I'm happy.
And, hey! Just the other day I pushed the mousey button on something and the paper storage thingy on the other side of the desk spit out one of the sheets of paper on it with all kinds of writin' on it. That was interesting!
And now you think I'm gonna be able to get my Kodak camera to put pictures on this thing?
Right!
:>)
Chuck N and my 'puter is possibly older than some of the posters on this site.
ChuckN and I have nothing of value to add to this discussion.
One word for you, Chuck:MacintoshThat's it. I've said my piece. Take it or leave it, my conscience is all good. I've done my deed for the day,....
ChuckIf your "thingy under the desk" "whirs, buzzes and grinds", "beeps and vibrates" - you have a marvelous "thingy". You are way ahead of Bill Gates and Steve Jobs.Congratulations!Frosty"I sometimes think we consider the good fortune of the early bird and overlook the bad fortune of the early worm." FDR - 1922
Hey, again, Bob -- are we having fun yet? ROFL. OK, at the risk of driving the rest of the KNots members crazy, but keeping with your requests to have things posted in this thread, I'm going to copy my experiement posts from the other thread to here. What I've done is use inches for size, but different resolutions, as you might see with different users' cameras.
"Ok, I'm going to try an experiment here. My scanner is easy to change settings on, so I scanned my favorite birthday card picture in 2 resolutions: 200 dpi, and 600 dpi. Then I edited the pictures in Paint Shop Pro, making them both "3 inches" in the resize (5" was just too big). I'm going to attach them here, and see how they fit in the frame here at Knots. Maybe this'll help jog the memory (mine)."
More posts to come......forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
"See how huge the higher resolution picture is on the monitor, even though they're set to the same size in inches???? Actually, IMHO, even the smaller one is too big. Here, I'll try it at 300 pixels wide.
[Ahhhh, fits quite nicely in the frame. It could be wider, 400 or so. This is the point I was so clumsily trying to make. You can use inches because your camera or scanner setting stays the same, but when another user tries to edit to the same size in inches, s/he could run into an unexpected result and not understand why.
I generally open attachments in a separate window so they don't have to compete for space, and Windows resizes them to fit the screen if they're way too big.]"forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
FgYou and Bob have inspired me to finally figure out my resizing software. Here are my last couple of projects. Thanks for the help. Tom"Notice that at no time do my fingers leave my hand"
Good job, Tom. Now, that wasn't so bad, was it? ;-)forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
More painful than you can imagine! :) Tom"Notice that at no time do my fingers leave my hand"
Here is a quick and dirty way to get the pictures visible in the message.1 - Follow the instructions earlier in the thread to upload pictures to the server.2 - Make certain that the check box "Check here if HTML tags are in the message" below the "Attach file"-button is checked3 - Click the "Preview"-button in the same row as the "Attach file"-button4 - Right click your picture's icon at the bottom of the message and choose "Copy link adress" in the menu.5 - Click the "Revise"-button below the message.6 - Where you want the picture, write : <img src=""> then paste the link adress you copied in step 4 between the quotes. Example: Doing this ( Step 4 and 6 ) with KiddervilleAcres first picture in this thread it would look like this:
<img src="http://forums.taunton.com/n/mb/at.asp?webtag=fw-knots&guid=0F415796-AE70-479F-941E-AEB0A3703819&frames=no">7 - Use the tag <br> (line break) to separate text to keep it legible as html won't notice regular line breaks.8 - Click the "Preview"-button to see if it worked9 - If you are happy with the results click "post" or, to add or alter click "Revise"To show you the html-tags I have not checked the "Check here if HTML tags are in the message" box in this message. To show the effects of <br> and the picture example above I will post the text below the line in a message immediately after this one, and then with the box checked.------------------------------------------------------This example belongs to the message above.<br>
Here is an example of what 3 line breaks will do.<br><br><br>Html will not care if I use "enter".See? This is still on the same line.<br><br>And here is the picture from the example above(note the break after here to keep the picture below the text):<br><img src="http://forums.taunton.com/n/mb/at.asp?webtag=fw-knots&guid=0F415796-AE70-479F-941E-AEB0A3703819&frames=no"><br><br>Hope this was helpful to you!<br><br>
This example belongs to the message above.
Here is an example of what 3 line breaks will do.
Html will not care if I use "enter".
See? This is still on the same line.
And here is the picture from the example above(note the break after here to keep the picture below the text):
View Image
Hope this was helpful to you!
Bob, thanks for all the info. I haven't taken the time to post a pic yet, as I didn't know the path to take. Maybe now I'll be able to put some up.
Jerry
Jerry,
My pleasure.
If you have any problems/issues, just post back here and we'll git 'er done! Trying to get all this pic posting thang out there for everyone.
Regards,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Hi ya Bob,
Heeerrre's my dilema. I push the "attach files" and nothing happens, no dialog box, nothing. I feel so lonely out here in 'can't upload pictures land'.
"Help me Mr. Wizard..." ;-)
Chris.
Looks like Bob might be off having fun this weekend, so I'll pipe up. Usually, when a pereson has trouble getting the dialog box for the attachments, it's because they have a pop-up blocker working, and sometimes more than one. You need to either turn it off, or make it accept pop-ups from forums.taunton.comforestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
Why thank you FG, I never gave that a thought. I shall have to give it a go.
Once again, thank you for your hep (as they would say in Mayberry).
Have a good day.
Chris.
You're most welcome. And if you need any hep getting across the crick, give a holler!forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
Here goes nothin'... nope, pop-up turned off and still nothing.
Chris,
What version of Windows are ya runnin?
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Welcome back Bob, hope ya got everything sqyared away.
I'm running Windows XP service pack 2. Nortons' my protector.
Have a good day.
Chris.
Chris,
Just for grins, try holding down the Ctrl key then click on the Attach Files button. Also, and I can't remember where; think it might be in Internet Options, Java script needs to be enabled.
Haven't had my third cup o' java yet so I could be wrong; I mean not 100% right!
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Great tip on the Ctrl key, as that over-rides all the possible pop-up blockers. I made the mistake of installing the Earthlink software years ago, and the pop-up blocker is a PITA of the first degree, cannot be completely turned off or uninstalled, so the Ctrl key comes in very handy.
The Java thing is found under Tools-->Internet Options-->Advanced, scrolling down a ways. I find that stuff really confusing. Current settings are:
Java Console is not enabled under "Microsft VM", so that must be separate from "Use JRE 1.5.0 etc., etc." ??
After I installed IE 7.x I had trouble with the Link option (the little globe thingie) where I had to keep giving permission for it to function. Firewall thing I guess. Finally found a checkbox that made it work, but darned if I know which one, LOL.
How long before someone says "Use Firefox!!" ????forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
Hi forestgirl,
I have recommended Firefox to several folks in the past. If you don't mind losing the text effects parts in IE, Firefox works quite well and consumes far less resources than does IE.
Regards,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Well, here we go... Nope, nothing.
All Java Scripts are enabled, even turned on the console. Tried the control button, even rumaged around control panel some to try and find anything that might be applicable.
I remember our ol' buddy Lataxe saying his button doesn't work for him, either.
Scratchin' my head and thinkin' hmmmmmm...
Chris.
Chris,
As detailed as you can please describe the steps that you are taking. I know this can be frustrating but hang in there bud.
We'll get you through it.
Regards,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
WWWEEEELLLL, I've been typing my message in this little box thingy. Then I scrollll on down to where the leettle buttons (post, preview, spell check, attach files, and cancel) are, and I poosh de button dat says [actually ya gotta read it ;-)] attach files. But nothing happens other than my curser pushing the attach files button.
I've buzzed through my security system enabling Java script and access except for that which is 'unsigned'. I've rubbed my chin enough to almost wear my beard off.
What am I missin' here?
Chris.
P.S. Thanks for takin the time to "hep" me with this. Refering to an earlier post...Hey Forest Girl...I still ain't got across that dadburn crick!!!!! Thanks again Bob. C.
Chris,
And ya held down the Ctrl button prior to clicking on the Attach Files button?
Regards,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
yeeeeuuuup.
Chris,
Tell Norton to go visit with Ralphie for a while! God I hate Norton; takes over your machine and is damn near impossible to get rid of.
Another thing you might try is downloading and installing Firefox or, if you have access to another PC, try it on that one.
There are so many variables/settings that without being there on the machine it makes it very difficult to diagnose the problem.
We'll get donr.
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Edited 8/1/2007 7:07 am ET by KiddervilleAcres
Hey Bob,
O well, you tried and a good go at that. I'll just fiddle around a while with it until I find the key to unlock the door, if there is one. Otherwise, I guess I'll be pictureless on Knots.
Personally, I like Norton. I've been using it for years and it's saved my butt a few times. I've even turned off Internet Security to try and get that dialog box to show up. But, alas, nothing.
Thanks again for all your help and have a good day,
Chris.
Chris, I can't remember if you ever posted your operating system and browser edition, can you refresh my memory?? Also, if you write [email protected] with those details, Matt may be able to help. I for one don't want you to be "pictureless!!"forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
I think I found my problem in windows security. Let me see if this works.....
O, yeah, hi FG.
Wait a minute while I dance around the room doin the Harry Stamford shuffle
Chris,
Ok man, fess up. What was it? In the interestes of other folks and info. sharing.
I, like forestgirl, didn't want you to be pictureless on Knots! Glad to see you fixed it.
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Edited 8/1/2007 8:02 pm ET by KiddervilleAcres
I believe I stumbled down the path that FG said she found but couldn't remember what she did. So, get your pencils ready boys and girls 'cause this is a long one.
Tools>Internet Options>Security tab>Custom Level button>Security Settings Internet Zone>Java Permissions, custom>Java Custom Settings...>Edit Permissions tab>unsigned content-run in sandbox-enable dialogs.
Naturally, you're gonna havta scroll around and click buttons and some buttons appear after clicking appropriate orders (Java custom settings appears after puttin a dot in the circle for custom under Java permissions, etc), but this is the path to follow to get to the Edit Permissions page. Unsigned content is the first section, run in sand box is right under that heading, scroll down to enable dialogs.
To all you other fine folk that wrote me--resizing me picture and what not, yea, I gotta download that program yas mentioned. All I have to play with pictures is the stupid Kodak easyshare thingy that came with the camera. The original picture was 946KB and I cropped it down to 600KB by hitting the 4"x6" sizing dohicky...
Though I've whittled from time to time throughout my life, I've only been carving since November. It grew out of whittling which I engaged in as rehabilitation for my right hand 'cause I had cut the tendon to my middle finger at work the previous August. " Just Thinkin'" was done this past Jan-Feb, inspired by me havin a puff tryin to figure out what I wanted to carve (I had just done a whole bunch of snowmen for friends and family for Christmas and I wanted to take a break from holiday carvings), he is my first attempt at 'life-like' carving. Whatchallthink?
Have a good day/evening everyone,
Chris.
I love the carving -- sorry to blow right past it to the photo-size criticism! Hey, Chris, do you ever carve willow? I can maybe save you a chunk from our tree that's getting cut up and carried off to various woodworkers and scuptors tomorrow. Lemme know quick! They'll be here at 2pm West Coast time.
forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
Edited 8/3/2007 1:42 am by forestgirl
Not yet. You can let it go, there's plenty of wood on this side of the country. In fact my neibor has one he'll be taking down soon.
Thanks anyway,
Chris.
Chris,
Really like that carving. Post some more pics after you apply the finish. Looking forward to seeing them.
Congrats on your success with posting/resizing pics.
Regards,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Chris, I think it looks very good. You sure didn't go the easiest route carving a life-like human, it's probably the hardest thing one can sculpt, and I believe that is the general view among artists as well.I think you could possibly lower the quality setting and thus the size of the picture even some more without it really affecting the perceived quality of the picture. As you said yourself, experiment, some pictures can really take a hard compression and look good even so. Good luck with your carving and picture posting! :)
Cowsine,
Kinda like handcut dovetails right? Like everything else it seems that without formal training it's a learning experience from the get go.
I have found that I usually get best results by tweaking the compression instead of lowering the quality works best for me. Once again, there's more than one way ta skin dat cat!
Regards,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Well the compression IS the quality setting (or rather the inverse of it) in a jpg image as long as one keeps the same amount of pixels in the picture. I guess we are probably doing the same thing...
Anyhow it is a matter of preference and taste, no doubt about it. For this kind of use it's about finding something that works and stick with it. The dovetail analogy is very good, do SOME read up and study, then get to it! It's learning by doing and experimenting.I wouldn't exactly say that I lack formal training, since you brought that up, but I find that my own choice of software, Photoshop and it's ilks, is not exactly what someone should be learning or buying for resizing. :)By the way, it was a great initiative to start this thread!
And I am almost starting to feel sorry for that poor cat. ;-)
Cowsine,
It just seemed to me that everywhere I went on Knots folks kept getting this splinter/tearout and I wanted to see if we could at leat minimize, if not eliminate the pain somewhat. <G>
Thanks for your help,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Edited 8/3/2007 12:22 pm ET by KiddervilleAcres
Edited 8/3/2007 12:23 pm ET by KiddervilleAcres
Glad you solved your problem. Now you may want to consider resizing your attachments so they fit the post window without the need to scroll around. Your original attachment was 2062 x 1378 pixels @ 72 dpi. I took it down to 360 x 241 @ 72 dpi. This works well for those, like myself with small monitors (17" set at 832 x 624 resolution). Take a look. Mike
I was suspicious that Windows was blocking something somehow! Glad you got it fixed. Now we've gotta help you get your file sizes down. 600 Kb is a bit much for the dial-up folks. Jamie laughs as she throws rain on the parade, LOL! Here ya go:
forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
Edited 8/2/2007 11:09 am by forestgirl
The consensus here seems to be that Irfanview is THE way to go for no-cost resizing of pictures.
Having used Irfan for more than 10 years I still like it, but for resizing I find the program a bit clunky. As an alternative I'd like to recommend "EvJO Photo-Image Resizer", a 1.5MB download from: http://www.evjosoft.com/files/EvJOImageRes_Setup.exe
It's a one window program with 3-steps to get a resized and compressed picture.View Image
Open a picture...
Pick a size in the drop-down menu, I'd go for "640 x XXX", it's a resonable size that should work well with all common screen resolutions.
Choose "JPG" and "Remove EXIF Data" (aprox. 3 to 8 kB you don't need). Pick a quality (compression) setting between 40 and 60 (40 giving the smallest file and often good enough quality for web use) Finally "Convert Picture"!
There are also "Advanced Options" in the File menu. Use them to rotate the image, flip it, change color, contrast and a few more things.
Since CarvinChris picture just_thinkinx.jpg already has been through a few iterations I'll add another one. :) It's 640x428 pixels and 28 kB with a quality setting of 40. The picture works for me. How about you?
Hi, C,
I took your suggestion and downloaded the program. I experimented with ole "JT" from another view. Thanks for the tip.
If life was more like Knots, the world would be truly a better place.
Chris, Thanks again to all.
forestgirl,
You're right forestgirl, kinda.
I didn't exactly take the weekend off; well I guess I did from Knots anyway.
Had to move the RAS into a more workable position to take advantage of the Gambrel roofline to aid in the DC. Whole new thing as you and Sarge got me thinking. It's about that shroud thingy you showed pics of and Sarges posts about DC. Trying to combine both so I can et the best out of a long SCMS and have it do DC.
When I get it working I'll post some pics. So far it's lookin good.
Regards,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Cool! You'll love the DC, I'm sure. "It's about that shroud thingy you showed pics of...." Hope you saw my notes later on (at WWA post) that I should have made the thing bigger. When I turned the saw for miters, the dust stream was hitting the outside edge of the hood. If'n there's a way to make the hood move, that'd be the cat's meow. Haven't spent much time thinking about it though.
Watching for pics!forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
You and your solid core doors! I'm gonna fix you somehow, you just wait!! Too funny............forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
I'll bet it you havd a big piece of walnut Forestgirl would even start drooling.
Hey FG the weather is just fine over here on the other island I even have 3 more pieces of equipment for you to see if you EVER get over here to this Island.
Good, better, best never let it rest until your good is better & your better best.
Edited 9/3/2007 5:40 pm by OB
Hi, Bart. I know, I know. How are your Sundays?? We're always looking for something entertaining to do the days we have our grandson. I know he'd love to see that boat of yours!forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
That's great if you are a Windows user, but if you are the more advanced species, aka Mac user, it's a simple as selecting Export in iPhoto (which you no doubt use because it's drop dead simple to connect and import from your camera, as well as organize and edit your images) and selecting a pixel resolution and file format. :)
Cropping the photo and enhancing the images are similarly easy.
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