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   Michael6255 | Mar 08, 2003 07:16pm | #1

   no problem at all.  The danish oil is likely a thinner varnish with some tung or linsed oil.  Just let the BLO cure well before recoating.

   -Mike

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   HowardAcheson | Mar 08, 2003 08:13pm | #2

   You can skip the boiled linseed oil step if you plan to use Deft Danish Oil. Deft is an oil/vanish product made from linseed oil, varnish and a thinner. The linseed oil in Deft will accomlish the same coloring of the cherry as would linseed oil alone.

   Try it on some scrap and see what I mean.

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   wofat | Mar 08, 2003 09:31pm | #3

   I will try that, but my can of Deft suggests that it is Tung Oil with Urethane Resin. Maybe tung oil brings 0ut the color the same as boiled linseed. I usually heat the linseed oil to about 170' when applying. Do you know, can you heat the Deft oil in the same manner?

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   HowardAcheson | Mar 09, 2003 04:51am | #4

   Of course they "suggest" tung oil because tung oil has some cache that they think will sell their product. Go to their site and look at the product spec sheet: http://www.deftfinishes.com/wood/deftoil.htm

   SPECIFICATIONS

   SOLVENT TYPE: Mineral Spirits

   RESIN TYPE: Linseed Oil, Oil Modified Urethane

   FINISH: Very low sheen when applied to bare wood.

   No mention of tung oil actually in the product.

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   wofat | Mar 10, 2003 04:10am | #5

   Thanks, Howie. Why they can say Tung Oil on the can and admit only linseed oil in the spec is a real tribute to american marketing, huh.

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   HowardAcheson | Mar 10, 2003 06:12pm | #6

   What the say is "Tung Oil Finish" not tung oil. May be somewhat misleading but what they will argue they mean is that it give a finish like tung oil.

   At the most, some may add a dollop of real tung oil to the pot when they cook up their varnish. But once it becomes varnish, it it no longer tung oil and more than varnish made with safflower oil is safflower oil. It's now varnish. Then they take the varnish, mix it with linseed oil and a thinner and it becomes an oil/varnish blend that they call "Tung Oil Finish.

   BTW, I have no problem with an oil/varnish blend finish no matter what they call it. It actually is a better more water and stain resistant, and more durable finish than a pure tung oil finish.

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   wofat | Mar 11, 2003 02:56am | #7

   Thanks for your help.

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   GrouchieGrum | Mar 13, 2003 04:41pm | #8

   I recently bought a book on finishes, and from what I read, it seemed as though Danish Oil is more of a pre-stain/finish oil.... This book contained many different recipes for many different finishes, but they all seemed to act as if you used Danish Oil to bring out the figure in your wood before applying stain(and in some cases you can use danish oil as the stain) or your actual finish product...  I suppose I should note that from what I read in this book stated that danish oil does have some finish in it, but the concensus was that the finish was not of a very high quality or durability...

   I recently have been working on a picture frame. The frame is made out of a Birdseye Maple.  After I had finished the frame, I made the mistake of immediately staining the frame with a gel stain(I now have an understanding that gel stains have a tendency to hide figure/etc).. evidently, according to this book, if I would have used danish oil first, and then put on the gel stain, and then put on a laquer or other top coat, I would be in much better shape..... Oh well live and learn....

   This book is put out by Taunton. It seems like the author of this book went through all the "Ask the editors/experts" questions and printed out all the recipes that people are/were using as answers..... its pretty interesting read...

   Anyways, I don't pretend to know everything about finishes, but does what I listed above sound correct to all of you professionals out there?

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   Gretchen | Mar 13, 2003 04:51pm | #9

   Another book you might want to invest in is Bob Flexner's Understanding Wood Finishes.  Gretchen

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   wofat | Mar 17, 2003 12:00am | #10

   Thanks for your help.