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1. 
   mwenz | Jan 13, 2007 09:11pm | #1

   Regardless of why you bought one with a corrugated bottom--or even why LN makes it an option--grinding them out will in all likelihood be a mistake. You will relieve stress in the bronze and make the sole pretty thin.

   Consider selling it and buying one without the corrugations.

   Take care, Mike

1. 
   derekcohen | Jan 14, 2007 03:44am | #7

   I reckon that young Harold is yanking our collective chains.

   Regards from Perth

   Derek

2. 
   Lataxe | Jan 13, 2007 09:18pm | #2

   Harold,

   One is tempted to give you a "Luke lecture" (after all, gooses & ganders) but I suppose one in a week is enough.  :-)

   Does "nfg" mean what I think? (Not For Ganders)?

   Lataxe the rude.

1. 
   rhagenstein | Jan 13, 2007 09:25pm | #3

   I read "nfg" and thought to myself "whiskey tango foxtrot?"

2. 
   AndyE | Jan 13, 2007 09:34pm | #4

   A better lecture might be one on planing over wet glue.Andy

3. 
   gmoney | Jan 14, 2007 01:40am | #6

   yep, noeffingood would be my guess too.

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   MikeHennessy | Jan 13, 2007 09:58pm | #5

   Grooves in plane soles are typically seen in larger planes where, some say, they relieve any vacuum between the sole and the workpiece, with the purpose being to make the plane easier to push. Never saw much use for 'em my own self, but I'm surprised anyone would consider them on a #1.

   What others said about grinding 'em off. You'll just ruin the plane.

   Mike Hennessy
   Pittsburgh, PA

4. 
   dukeone | Jan 14, 2007 06:12am | #8

   H.P.: Fill with epoxy and sand smooth. KDM

   "... Buy the best and only cry once.........

5. 
   philip | Jan 14, 2007 10:07am | #9

   Hee elle no, gdi,that ther is a miniture plane, so don't go ahead and grind the grooves out-they are there so that it can be like the real thing- you just store yer wax in them grooves.

   Philip Marcou
6. 
   kesac | Jan 14, 2007 06:08pm | #10

   You are trying to give some of these guys a heart attack right?

   You are talking about defacing artwork here.  If you want to swap for one that is not corrugated, I am sure you will find plenty of takers here.

7. 
   mapleman | Jan 14, 2007 06:46pm | #11

   Harold,

   Yes, I would grind the grooves slap out of that thing. A belt sander with a 60 grit belt should do th trick. They serve no purpose at all. I also like to take my new lee neelson planes and grasp them upside down by the body and smack them hard up against my workbench. That usually snaps that useless little horn thingy off the top of the handle, and I can get an extra finger or two on it.

   Lee

1. 
   JeffHeath | Jan 15, 2007 06:56am | #12

   Lee

   Too funny.  Still laughing.  Does that belt sander work better than a grinder with a metal disc??  I've always enjoyed the ensueing fireworks show, especially if you aim them sparks right at the full bag of the dust collector!

   Jeff

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   mapleman | Jan 15, 2007 07:35am | #13

   Jeff,

   I never thought of the grinder! What do they call that cool circular pattern on dashboards from the 60's/70's? You could just grind that overlapping pattern all over the plane. I kind of hate to scrape all of the camoflage paint off of my complete set of lee nelson planes, guess I'll have to spring for a Marcou for the grinder experiment;)

   Cheers,

   Lee

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   mwenz | Jan 15, 2007 08:45am | #14

   What do they call that cool circular pattern on dashboards from the 60's/70's?

   It's called engine turning, and another term I forget. Watchmakers still do it, as well as other shops.

   Take care, Mike

1. 
   AB | Jan 15, 2007 06:42pm | #17

   The Pontiac Trans-Am dash was fly cut.

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   mbholden | Jan 18, 2007 12:56am | #18

   AB and all,

   While I dont want to throw cold water on the discussion, but has anyone considered that there may be only ONE groove on the bottom? and that said groove was for the purpose of making fly rods?

   It may be an owner modification to a #1, but I believe Lie-Nielsen makes block planes with a single groove for fly rod builders.

   Just a thought - you may now return to your regularly scheduled programming. (grinnn!)

   Mike

3. 
   mwenz | Jan 18, 2007 03:11am | #19

   Hi Mike--yes I did. The use of a few plurals when referencing the grooves, combined with the fact LN does sell a corrugated version, pointed me down that path...

   But then again, as we are not hearing back from the OP, might never know.

   Take care, Mike

    

2. 
   jimmy | Jan 18, 2007 03:54am | #20

   sorry Jeff, cast iron, no sparks...

8. 
   cowtown | Jan 15, 2007 10:16am | #15

   what is this? a joke?

   cowtown figures that if yu got a #1 of any type, (but yers has some corrugations on the sole!)

   And you ain't figured out why some planes have these grooves on the bottom, well the tool god just made a massive blunder, with you being the benificiary. Scratch yer head and enjoy the ride.

   Not to be blunt, but you are seemingly undeservedly blessed with possession of this device, albiet you are seemingly in a state of total bliss, why, when even a simple google of "corrugated plane bottoms" which will turn up a dozen sources of rhikenological reference, ranging from reduced friction to relative rareness.

   Buddy, my advice to you is to work hard to overlook yer percieved misfortune and opt for "the greater good".

   There are, and I'm suprised more folks didn't chip in on this, many folks who would dearly love what you seem to "don't want". Yu could just give it away, perhaps to yer local high school shop eh?

   I'm looking for yer local high school's email suggesting that they contact you to save this tool from such b*st*rd*zation.

   And an addendum---if you try grinding them grooves out, what would you expect to gain? a Darwin award? I Dunno if they hand em out in the north............

   But before the high school contacts you, before the tool god re-visits the situation, enjoy it buddy. I just hope yer fist is svelt enuf to fit into the handle, and that yer woodworking buddies never find out!

   Eric
   in Cowtown

1. 
   PADDYDAHAT | Jan 18, 2007 06:39am | #21

   CT, shame on you, you know that he can't be in contention for a Darwin award unless he fills in the corragations flush with the sole of the plane with a paste of nitroglycerin. Then he must true up the sole on a 12" sanding disc so that the sole gets real level with a fine finish. Paddy

1. 
   Harold Pomeroy | Jan 18, 2007 04:08pm | #22

   My post about grinding down a foppish handplane was just a response to the criticism of Luke19, for the language he used in his first post. People speak and write differently, and that's part of their cultural identity. In some situations, like a prep school English class, it's important to force compliance with conventions. In other places, like a woodworking forum, it's more important to try as hard as possible to listen to what the person is saying. If you don't understand, asking for more information can be a way to educate both parties.Harold

1. 
   Lataxe | Jan 18, 2007 07:08pm | #23

   Tee hee - I suspected you were a tease, you wee rascal!

   Lataxe

9. 
   ring | Jan 15, 2007 05:56pm | #16

   I've been having a tough day, but you really made me laugh...

   David Ring

   http://www.touchwood.co.il/?id=1&lang=e