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   nigelUsa | Jul 17, 2003 06:19am | #1

   Yes, I found this bit to be a pain to set up and once there wanted to leave the table alone. However when cutting the "verticle" pieces, I turned the table 90 degrees so the pieces are now horizontal and the cuts were much, much easier to make. lately I've been using pocket screws to build the boxes. Back is not seen and the front is covered by the drawer front.

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   Strongbow | Jul 17, 2003 11:33pm | #2

   Good idea....

   maybe if I mouted my table on a rotating gantery, and worked overhead it would let me work in the horizontal with my fence in the perpendicular to the cutting table sub surface...?????????????then again......

   nah.....I am just binning it......

   I see these comments did not upset too many people, so I assume others have had the same problems?

   Keep smiling

   mike

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   stancalow | Jul 18, 2003 01:14am | #3

   NIGELUSA

   What is your horizontal set-up?  Did you have to make a whole new router-table and fence sytem?  I thought about this as a possible solution too, but didn't wnat to waste a lot of time and effort. 

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   nigelUsa | Jul 18, 2003 05:03am | #5

   As bad as it sounds! I picked up the whole router table and straped it down to the side table on my table saw. Router spindel at 90 to vertical. Worked very well! Also made feeding the wood much easier.

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   forestgirl | Jul 18, 2003 03:23am | #4

   "Without some form of holding device for the verticle routing of the joint, I would even go as far as saying that it is a danger to use."  A tall auxilliary fence, a push block and a steady hand?  Would it really be that much of a problem?  I ask in all sincerity, as I've not used the lock miter bit myself, but there are any number of operations done vertically on the router table that seem to get done well with a minimum of fuss.

   Or is it more a matter of not want to set it up for one-off projects?  That factor is a major one with the LMBs far as I can see.  If you're going to use it once in awhile, and usually with a different thickness of stock, yep it might be a pain.  But if, over a period of time, you're going to make several boxes out of, say, 1/2" stock, then making a set-up block and a push block shouldn't be a huge deal.

   forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl   ;-)

   
   

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   Edited 7/17/2003 8:24:31 PM ET by forestgirl

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   Strongbow | Jul 20, 2003 12:48am | #8

   just read Nigelus from usa...

   that is such a cool answer....

   I may consider bolting the router table to the floor and turning the whole workshop upside down......

   Today I have made 6 boxes out of elm, i/2 inch t, mitred and using a biscuit jointer it took no more than 5 hours and that's from a small shed set up...

   IN the bin...sorry..

   PS if you want it I will ship it to you and then you can try it

   mike

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   forestgirl | Jul 27, 2003 08:23pm | #10

   Mike, I tried to email you, but the message bounced.  Perhaps you could drop a line to me via an emailed response to this message, or going through my "Profile."  Thanks!!forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl   ;-)

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   forestgirl | Aug 03, 2003 12:16am | #11

   Mike, I've sent 2 or 3 messages to you, but they get bounced back, just want you to know I'm not ignoring you!  I have sent them by way of replying to your email -- btiinternet.com link, and through Knots.  The one I sent personally came back with the following error:

   Deferred: Connection refused by ctfl2.netster.com

   The one I sent through Knots came back with the following error:

   Error connecting to primary server '65.192.28.32'forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl   ;-)

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   BrianMcG | Jul 21, 2003 07:58am | #9

   Hi Jamie! I bought the LMB a month or so before getting the Veritas table and fence system and tried cutting box parts on my old "regular" table with a shop made sled that never seemed to provide the support I needed.I had every bit of trouble noted from the other folks. It was even a little scary.

   THEN I got my new table with the sled and cut both parts with little or no trouble.

   Those bits can be trouble unless you have absolute control and the Veritas systems provides it.

   How you been doing Kiddo? Brian

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   PaulGeer1 | Jul 18, 2003 11:46pm | #6

   I used the bit for making a couple of 6"x6" columns 3/4" material and it worked well, being my work pieces were only 6" wide made the vertical passes fairly easy. The one thing I did noticed is, if the work piece is too close in to the bit, then you start to joint the piece leaving a sharp point making it unstable on the router table. No matter how much vertical support I had, the work piece would then tend to slide down and away from the fence.  It seems if you leave a some what square point on the miter, than the operation is smooth and safe on the vertical cuts. It doesn't take much sanding to knock off the square edge, Anyway that's what I found.

   Let me know if this doesn't make since to anyone.

   Paul

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   Shep | Jul 19, 2003 11:58pm | #7

   STRONGBO1-- as I've already posted, I successfully used the lock miter bit for a recent project. Granted, I was running MDF, which is fairly easy to machine ( but DUSTY ). The pieces were 10" by  55", so they weren't exactly small, but they were pretty easy to handle. I will definitely be using this bit again, but if you are uncomfortable with the set-up, you're probably better off with some other method. Everybody has a different way of doing things, which makes woodworking interesting!