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   UncleDunc | Feb 04, 2003 03:42am | #1

   >> What suggestions do you have?

   Google.

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   jackiechan | Feb 04, 2003 06:56am | #2

   Mike,

   Here are two scanned pages from the Oct. 2000 Wood Magazine.  It was a project for making a toy float plane.  You could enlarge the propeller pattern to the size you need on your computer or local copy center.

   Hope this helps.

   Dan Kornfeld, Owner/President - Odyssey Wood Design, Inc.

   
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   PnCbWshp | Feb 04, 2003 03:44pm | #4

   Thank you Jackie,

   You must have one very good scanner and some really good software. That's a great image.

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   jgaiennie | Feb 05, 2003 04:59am | #14

   Hey Dan,

   Just a question.  Is there a way that you could have posted that pic in *.jpg format rather than as a picture posted in a word document that we have to download to view?  It's so much easier to view pics directly from the web without downloading them, and less risk of virus transfer (I think).  Maybe it was more trouble than it was worth.  So anyway - something to think about.

   jdg

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   jackiechan | Feb 05, 2003 06:18am | #15

   JDG,

   The pictures should pop open when you click the attachment file (they do on my system).  I've enclosed the two scans (below) in JPEG.  The anti-virus software that I run (Norton Internet Security 2003) automatically scans downloads before they open (with no noticeable time lag) and inoculates any attacking virus.

   It works on the reverse as well - when I send e-mail, it warrants against unwittingly sending out a virus.

   I hope the JPEG's help.

   Dan Kornfeld, Owner/President - Odyssey Wood Design, Inc.

   
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   jgaiennie | Feb 05, 2003 06:32am | #16

   Thanks Dan,

   Didn't mean for you to redo.  Was really just trying to put out a thought for next time, but I appreciate you taking the effort.

   Thanks again,

   jdg

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   jgaiennie | Feb 04, 2003 03:31pm | #3

   McCaulley and Hartzell are propeller manufacturers.  Check out their web pages.  You're almost sure to find pics of wooden propellers. 

   A trip to an airport in your area, with camera in hand, would almost certainly yield a first hand look at some fine examples.

   jdg

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   RickL750 | Feb 04, 2003 04:11pm | #5

   Mike, Try this link http://www.kitplanes.com/index.asp I use to be a subcriber a long time ago. If you can't find what you need try posting in the forum.

   RickL

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   eddiefromAustralia | Feb 04, 2003 05:24pm | #6

   Mike,

   Ten Speed Press have a reprint of a book from 1915, called: "the complete woodworker", ISBN 1-58008-015-4, Ed Bernard E Jones.

   Contains complete instructions from the era on making an actual plane from spruce.

   p313-316 detail how to make a propellor.

   The dustcover price is USD14.95

   Cheers,

   eddie

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   Jimma | Feb 04, 2003 11:09pm | #7

   I have an actual wooden prop I'll send you if you'll pay for the shipping. Email me if interested:

   [email protected]

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   jgaiennie | Feb 05, 2003 01:35am | #8

   Wow, what an offer.  Take Jim up on that!  Those things are worth a fortune.

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   Gretchen | Feb 05, 2003 01:39am | #9

   Take Jim up on that!  Those things are worth a fortune.

   Not sure about that although I was  surprised to see a Hartsell prop at a sale for about $50 I think. I  knew the Hartsell family. The props look like they are a laminate of wood.Gretchen

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   Jimma | Feb 05, 2003 01:49am | #10

   Yes, it's a hardwood laminate with metal skin at the tip of the leading edges. The hub is drilled for mounting. It's no longer air worthy, but it's the real thing. Heavy sucker.

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   PnCbWshp | Feb 05, 2003 04:06am | #12

   Of course you should know, I'll not take advantage (make a furtune off of) a fellow woodworker, but you can be sure I appreciate his offer. I'd like both of us to get something out of his generosity. I'll make a propeller; he can have his prop back and maybe the spirits will grant each of us additional shoptime.

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   Jimma | Feb 05, 2003 04:57am | #13

   Extra shop time I don't need. In fact, I don't need the prop, either. Tomorrow I'll get the specs and post them to you.

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   PnCbWshp | Feb 06, 2003 04:22am | #17

   Jim,

   Thank you. I got the specs on your prop. If you'll hang on, I think I can save us  the trouble of shipping back and forth. Our local airport here in the great Missouri Ozarks has a prop on display in their dispatch. The manager has offered to let me barrow it for photos and measurements.

   Between this, your specs, and some luck, I may be able to get started. If my project turns out respectably well, I'll post photos in the "Gallery". If it doesn't, I'll probably just fade to gray.

   Thanks, and use the $50 you might otherwise have had to give up and take your wife out to dinner.

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   Jimma | Feb 06, 2003 06:12am | #18

   Ha ha -- she's going to remember this incident a lot longer than any 50 bucks! But, hey, the prop isn't an easy project, and when you're done it won't be authentic enough to hang fantasies on, so let me know if you change your mind. Best of luck -- Jim

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   PnCbWshp | Feb 05, 2003 03:58am | #11

   I'm interested. Can you provide any information e.g., length, weigh, condition, etc. I'll certainly send it back to you (at my expense) if you want. It's yours until you say otherwise. I'm not trying to make any money, only an airplane propeller.

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   patternmaker | Feb 06, 2003 08:37am | #19

   Mike:

   In late 1939 I had a job in the pattern shop of the Stinson Aircraft Co. when they moved from Ohio to Nashvile,Tennessee. I was assigned to help an old craftsman by the name of Croney. As I remember,we made several propellers for the Stinson 105, which was later used by the airforce in WW2 as a spotter.

   The props were experimental and were made from wood laminations.the blade cross sections were airfoil in shape and were finalized on a tracer mill working from a master pattern.

   The craftsmen who came to Tennessee were, as a rule,

   reluctant to teach the local help any of their trade secrets and processes. Not so with Mr. Croney. He taught me what to do,when to do it,and most importantly.why it should be done as he directed. Any successes that I may have achived in my life as a patternmaker, are directly the result of his teachings.

   I will never forget you,Mr.Croney,and God bless you wherever you may be.

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   jgaiennie | Feb 06, 2003 01:16pm | #20

   Pat,

   I enjoyed reading about your experiences with Mr. Croney.  I too find pleasure in reflecting back on those that have been positive influences in my life.

   jdg