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   Elcoholic | Nov 19, 2005 11:19pm | #1

   FWIW my Makita LS1212 (slider) w/ a FSTools HD Mitre blade walks on water.  The stock thin-kerf blade is great for light stock but deflected a bit when cutting compound scarfs in heavier stock.  The FS will leave perfect pyramids on 2" sq. QSWO end grain.  I mean perfect as in glass smooooooth, no sanding required.  I do almost all my cross cutting on my slider and I frequently use 8/4 - 12/4 stock.  I bought a bunch of  4" x 10" x 10' walnut and it slices that up like butter.

   John O'Connell - JKO Handcrafted Woodworking

   The more things change ...

   We trained hard, but it seemed that every time we were beginning to form up into teams, we would be reorganized.  I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing; and a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while producing confusion, inefficiency, and demoralization.

   Petronious Arbiter, 210 BC

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   nikkiwood | Nov 21, 2005 05:37am | #2

   What's this "FSTools HD Mitre blade" you're raving about --- Forrest?********************************************************
   "It is what we learn after we think we know it all, that counts."

   John Wooden 1910-

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   Ecbntmkr | Nov 21, 2005 04:02pm | #3

   John,
   Thanks for your input on the saw. I have the same question that Nikkiwood had though. What is the blade you are talking about?
   Thanks,
   Eric"When it comes time to die, make sure all you have to do is die." -Jim Elliot

3. 
   Elcoholic | Nov 23, 2005 02:13am | #4

   FS Tools are located in Canada.  I get them locally from California Woodworking Machinery in Anaheim, CA.  They have a web site:

   http://www.calwoodmach.com/John O'Connell - JKO Handcrafted Woodworking

   The more things change ...

   We trained hard, but it seemed that every time we were beginning to form up into teams, we would be reorganized.  I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing; and a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while producing confusion, inefficiency, and demoralization.

   Petronious Arbiter, 210 BC

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   forestgirl | Nov 23, 2005 07:23am | #5

   Not sure basing your choice on the blade quality is in your long-term interest.  If they saws are in a dead tie quality-wise, sure, but if either is a batter saw then that's the one to get.  I own a Bosch 12" CMS, bought last year, and love it but have never used (or been able to afford) the Makita. 

   forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
   Another proud member of the  "I Rocked With ToolDoc Club" .... :>) 

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   Ecbntmkr | Nov 23, 2005 03:44pm | #6

   Thanks for your reply. I agree with you about basing my decision on the blade. The reason I asked, is that intially, I don't have the money to buy a better blade after I just bought the saw. I know people swear on both of them, the saws that is, so I think that it comes down to personal preference. The Makita has a $50 rebate on it which makes it cheaper, but the Bosch comes with a free digital protractor from Bosch.
   Thanks again.
   Eric"When it comes time to die, make sure all you have to do is die." -Jim Elliot

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   nikkiwood | Nov 23, 2005 04:23pm | #7

   If you are concerned about the blade that comes equipped with the saw, I can tell you that the blade in the Makita (at least the 1013) is really superb. In fact I liked it so much I bought another. The brand is #### (sp?).********************************************************
   "It is what we learn after we think we know it all, that counts."

   John Wooden 1910-

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   nikkiwood | Nov 29, 2005 03:41am | #8

   I'm going to try that brand once again -- ####. I can't imagine why this name would not get past the Taunton censors.********************************************************
   "It is what we learn after we think we know it all, that counts."

   John Wooden 1910-

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   John_D | Nov 29, 2005 10:44pm | #9

   I was describing a dust collection problem and could not get it to accept ####.  I'll try it in fake German: doest buunnies.

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   nikkiwood | Nov 30, 2005 07:42am | #10

   Wierd...........I'd like to know the logic behind all this censorship.********************************************************
   "It is what we learn after we think we know it all, that counts."

   John Wooden 1910-

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   John_D | Nov 30, 2005 06:28pm | #11

   Yeah, it'd be sort of fun to poke it until we figured it out. :)  For example, I can talk about dust all day, don't know about bunnies (buunnies).  But when I put the words next to each other, dust is suddenly bad too (####).  I guess bunnies (buunnies) is on a bad list due to a famous men's magazine's name for their models.

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   John_D | Nov 30, 2005 06:29pm | #12

   Now that is really funny.  It took dust on its own, bunnies on its own, but the two together (####) is somehow wrong.

   That is wild.

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   nikkiwood | Dec 01, 2005 01:35am | #13

   Also have you noticed that if you skip an extra space after the letter "a", you also get bleeped, as in:"The big gray cow jumped over ####yellow moon.""The big gray cow jumped over a yellow moon."********************************************************
   "It is what we learn after we think we know it all, that counts."

   John Wooden 1910-

5. 
   mikegagne | Dec 03, 2005 08:13am | #17

   ##### ### ######### ##### # ####.aloha, ####;-)

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   John_D | Dec 03, 2005 09:56am | #18

   haaahahahahaahahahahaaaaaaaa

   I like it. :)

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   Elcoholic | Dec 07, 2005 03:31am | #19

   .ball hitch trailer dusty a off chrome the suck could bunny playboy that bet I John O'Connell - JKO Handcrafted Woodworking

   The more things change ...

   We trained hard, but it seemed that every time we were beginning to form up into teams, we would be reorganized.  I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing; and a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while producing confusion, inefficiency, and demoralization.

   Petronious Arbiter, 210 BC

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   nikkiwood | Dec 07, 2005 04:43am | #20

   Well, that's one way to get past the censor............********************************************************
   "It is what we learn after we think we know it all, that counts."

   John Wooden 1910-

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   forestgirl | Dec 01, 2005 08:19pm | #14

   Nikki -- please send me an email and explain.  I'm not figuring it out, but I'd like to get Mark to fix it if he can.  Remember:  I'm the one who got "sucks" off the censored-word list!forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)Another proud member of the  "I Rocked With ToolDoc Club" .... :>) 

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   hansm123 | Dec 02, 2005 07:08pm | #15

   Seems like every one is more concerned with what blade comes with the saw opposed to how weel the saw is designed and performs.  A good saw blade in a wobbly saw makes poor cuts. 

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   Walker1 | Dec 03, 2005 01:09am | #16

    I think we can all agree that, neither Makita or Bosch make wobbly saws. But it is a nice bonus if the CMS you choose comes with a really good blade.

    It's also nice when someone post's, if they have information to share about what's being discussed.