I just purchased some nice cherry furniture from Ethan Allen. Please don’t cringe, I’m an amatuer woodworker and don’t have time to build EVERYTHING. I am constructing a built-in entertainment center and would like to match (as close as possible) the finish on the “bought” pieces. I have experimented with garnet shellac (1 lb cut) followed by a coat of water soluble aniline dyes topped off with three coats of a 2 lb cut of the garnet shellac. All of my experimentation has been done on sample boards (3″ X 6″). I think I have a perfect match. My concern is duplicating the finish on much larger areas. I am using the aniline dye to darken the virgin cherry. I am assuming that’s what the commercial furniture makers do. As a matter of fact, I can see wiping marks around the drawer faces of the commercial pieces.
What I really want to eliminate is a blotchy finish. The cherry I purchased is very prone to blothiness.
Any suggestions for a simplified, consistent, tinted shellac-based finish on cherry?
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Any finish on cherry that matches now, is not likely to match in a year, since your cherry will continue to darken over time. I'd just go for a nice, as close to natural finish as possible and let the woods contrast.
If you feel the need to start darker than natural, I'd use a gel stain. Since the gel doesn't penetrate deeply it doesn't blotch as much as liquid stains.
Thanks for the advice. Simple is better. I have never worked with cherry before, but I have always admired the patina / darkening that occurs over time. I need to be more patient.
What steps and products did you use to get a 'perfect match?'
The wiping marks you see in the factory finish are probably a glaze.
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I used an unwaxed shellac for the first coat (1 lb cut). I followed with a water soluble aniline dye. Third coat was a 2 lb cut of shellac. Followed by another coat of dye. Finished with a coat of shellac (2 lb).
I don't have any idea how I missed that in your original post... you spelled it out and it's like I didn't even see it. Thanks for patiently repeating yourself.The second coat of dye is the only spot I'd expect that you might have some trouble duplicating the finish on a larger scale (the entertainment center). Applying dye over a sealed surface can be problematic - getting even coverage on all the surfaces is often difficult. It's actually easier to use an oil-base glaze for this step - it will give you more working time and can be fixed if it starts to get tacky on you while you're applying it. A water-base glaze is also an option, but dries faster and you need a good application technique to avoid streaks.I'd do a good size sample with the dye, 1# shellac sealer, then the glaze, then topcoats. The glaze will give you a little different effect than the dye, but you should be able to stay in the same color range/depth.Paul
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Thanks for the advice... I enjoyed visiting your website. You have provided a wealth of information and good photos.
Glad to help and thanks a lot!Paul
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If you have the time and a place to do it fumeing gives cherry a very nice look and you can make it as dark as you like.
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Chances are that the commercial finish is a tinted, catalyzed spray lacquer with a glaze finish. That kind of finish is difficult, if not impossible to match exactly. Your route with a tinted shellac is the right way to go, but you might want to pre-darken the cherry by sticking it out in the sun for a few days.
You might also consider a higher cut for the shellac. A 1# cut is pretty thin; 2# or 3# will build up a finish much quicker.
Another option is to find a bottle of Zinsser's French polish (a new product, which is an easy way to do a French polish finish). You could always top it with a few layers of garnet shellac if the color isn't dark enough.
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