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I am building a small cabinet using white oak plywood, and the boss has selected Minwax Red Oak stain based on the sample she saw on display at HD. Store sample is very dark, really covers the grain. So I took a scrap of the plywood, sanded lightly with 220 and laid on a heavy coat of stain, let it stay for 5-6 minutes and wiped it off. The stain in the pores looks good, but the rest of the wood did not take the color very well. It’s not going to pass inspection. Wiped on a coat of tung oil to see if there was any improvemnet – some, but not nearly enough to meet spec. Need suggesstions as to how to get a darker less transparent color. I’m tied to the plywood, so changing that is not an option.
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Try on a scrap putting sanding sealer then grain filler.
This should help even out the stain application. Then try and experiment on times to leave down the stain. to get the color you want.
*The Minwax stain is a pigment stain, so the open pores of the oak veneer will naturally collect and hold more of the pigment. For darker color you are better off using a dye stain, or spraying on an even coat of pigment stain and not wiping it off.
*Bill, I'm a little afraid of going to a dye stain because of the possibility of not matching the selected color. If I should try, what brand would you recommend? If I stay with the minwax and don't wipe it off, well, tell me more about drying time, possible problems, etc.
*Ed,I had a similar experience with staining a mahogany piece. After several different stains and dyes, I settled with Minwax Mahogany Red stain. Multiple coats of stain were required to achieve the dark color I wanted, but the results were worth the extra time. Try additional coats of the Red oak on your sample. You should be able to achieve the color you're looking for.My experience:The first application was disappointing, rather light in color. Subsequent coats were applied as a glaze. I soaked a rag in the stain and rung it out, then I wiped it on to apply a thin layer and didn't wipe it off. With each successive coat, I could immediately see how much darker this layer was compared to the previous. If it got too dark, then I wiped off the last layer and stopped.I'm very happy with the results. Note, the additional layers will likely take more time to dry before a finish is applied. Good luck,Steve
*I just picked up some of the same stain for a piece I'm just now in the middle of. I noticed on my sample pieces the color seemed to change more than other stains I have used depending on the amount of time before wiping. I sanded with 150, then two coats, each left about 5 min. before wiping. FWIW I ended up going with McCloskey red mohogany. Nearly identical, but side by side I liked it better. Now if I can just he armoir to turn out as nice as the scrap wood...........
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