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   jfsksa | Sep 08, 2022 04:39pm | #1

   I looked online for a picture of this and could not find one that seemed right.

   Posting a pic would be helpful.

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   pantalones868 | Sep 08, 2022 08:35pm | #2

   Is this a reproduction of something that actually exists at Monticello? "Monticello Parisian " would translate to me a "neoclassical" or possibly " French neoclassical revival". I been to Monticello the guy had a lot of furniture -all different..he had what would be a like a big coffee table that did a lazy susan thing and a chair that might be the original bucket seat.
   Every furniture company has at one time or other had a line called " The Montiicello Collection "

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   Mike2165 | Sep 08, 2022 10:08pm | #3

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   Mike2165 | Sep 08, 2022 10:09pm | #4

   I have added a picture

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   daverichards | Sep 09, 2022 10:42am | #5

   I'm going to guess you won't find an actual plan for that table but I think it would be fairly simple to reverse engineer it from the photos and creat a plan. If you don't find any ready-made plans I might be able to create one.

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   _mj_ | Sep 09, 2022 11:05am | #6

   I'm curious as to how the pullout surfaces could be kept from drooping.

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   daverichards | Sep 09, 2022 11:32am | #7

   I can think of a couple of ways to prevent drooping if building it today. I would guess back Jefferson's day he might have had kickers made fairly tight and lubricated with beeswax or tallow.

   I expect the side pull out is one piece and limited to how far it will extend. The front one probably doesn't pull out very far.

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   jfsksa | Sep 09, 2022 04:04pm | #8

   I've seen these pull outs, and used them, on executive desks. The purpose was to provide the guest who is talking to the executive a place to spread out papers. I seem to remember that they all drooped a bit. If it was me, I would use a supporting rail plus a top rail on both sides. I'd add just enough clearance plus some wax so that the shelf moved easily. I would not worry if the shelf drooped a bit.

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   joeleonetti | Sep 09, 2022 04:42pm | #9

   Found this book in the monticello website about measured drawings. Not sure exactly what they are. I'd use their website as a start and then dig around for books releated to Monticello. I'd like to believe someone somewhere has measured it. Maybe write the organization and ask them?

   https://www.monticelloshop.org/monticello-in-measured-drawings/

   FYI. I found a bunch of used copies of this book for six dollars and change delivered on Amazon. For six dollars, probably worth just buying it.

   Further poking around on the Monicello site, looks like they sell that piece for furniture (doubt it has traditional joinery) for $700. Might lead to dimensions, etc. Could also email the docents and ask. I suspect they might be helpful.
   https://www.monticelloshop.org/monticello-parisian-marble-top-side-table/
   27"h x 17½"w x 9½"d.

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   john_c2 | Sep 10, 2022 03:20am | #11

   That looks like a really interesting book. But I'm willing to bet the measured drawings are all of the building and rooms, and not of the furniture.

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   joeleonetti | Sep 10, 2022 07:25pm | #15

   For the price, I ordered a copy just to have it. Will comment on the contents after I get it in a few days.

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   joeleonetti | Oct 17, 2022 01:30pm | #18

   I did receive the book. It is a nice book with lots of dimensions, etc. However, no furniture. Focused, as I and others thought, on the building itself. Should I ever hit the lottery and want to duplicate Monticello, this book will be helpful.

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   john_c2 | Oct 17, 2022 07:33pm | #19

   But, now you can build an accurate scale model! Perhaps Monticello Dollhouses.

   I wonder if you can make a Ken doll into TJ. You could probably 3D print a new head for him.

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   joeleonetti | Oct 19, 2022 12:50am | #21

   I can build it at the same scale as the New Yankee Workshop dollhouse that Norm Abrams did one year. The scaled doll house was of the actual New Yankee Workshop. I was so excited that I actually purchased the plans way back when and have them somewhere. For many many years, that was my dream shop. Part of me hopes to build a dream shop from scratch and part of me hopes it never happens. The other dream shop would be my grandfather's workshop. The house is still in the family so it's a possiblity. So many choices. Good problems.

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   daverichards | Oct 18, 2022 09:52pm | #20

   If I get some time I could probably do up something that would at least make plans for a reasonable facsimile if that's of interest.

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   _mj_ | Sep 09, 2022 06:29pm | #10

   Pretty wild that they have 4 photos to sell it with just a single image of a shelf pulled out only slightly... and it's not even mentioned in the sales copy.

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    pantalones868 | Sep 10, 2022 01:54pm | #12

    The shelf is written about in the copy. Jefferson designed it to be able to place a book on it when he read in bed. The original never made it out of France and is lost so the one at Monticello is a reproduction from a drawing.
    The table is 17 1/2" wide. The shelf could then be 16+ inches long. It the shelf pulled out and stopped at 8 inches ,which would be enough shelf to set a book on, 2 to 1 cantilever it could accommodate a 12" book. Held between stops half it's length would be supporting the extended shelf and it shouldn't sag.
    If one were to reproduce this piece of furniture and to use it the way it was designed they would need to take into consideration the height of there own bed. Would a 27" height work for you? The marble top would be resistant to possible whale oil spills from your oil lamp, so that's a good thing!

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    _mj_ | Sep 10, 2022 03:22pm | #13

    Funny, I read that three times and it still reads as being about the single lower shelf to me... no mention of the 2 shelves with pull-out action, so fair enough I guess.

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    pantalones868 | Sep 10, 2022 04:22pm | #14

    From the picture is the front another shelf or is it a drawer? I can't tell from the picture. It would make sense as a shallow drawer for your spectacles and something to write with.
    What would two side pullout shelves do for you next to a bed unless you were Ozzie and Harriet?

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    _mj_ | Sep 10, 2022 07:43pm | #16

    Yeah, but it's the same size based on looking at the brass pull. Alas, the answer is lost in France.

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    pantalones868 | Sep 10, 2022 10:36pm | #17

    I could see it on the Monticello shop site. It is a shelf! There is almost enough room there for a shallow drawer. I'd change it up ,a drawer makes more sense to me.