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   roy.unit8c | May 11, 2022 07:28am | #1

   Here's the magazine article PDF:
   https://www.finewoodworking.com/membership/pdf/57253/011205032-revised-2012.pdf

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   daverichards | May 11, 2022 10:57am | #2

   There's this which includes the plan for his Morris Chair: https://www.tauntonstore.com/woodworking/project-plans/arts-crafts-furniture-projects-071436?limit=100

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   curmudgeon | May 11, 2022 03:07pm | #3

   Thank you for the replies. Does anyone happen to know if the book includes full plans, including the BOM and a cutlist? I probably could do the takeoff from the magazine article if need be but would like to find plans to avoid over/underbuying stock. I'd hoped to find the plans in the on-line resource here as part of my unlimited membership.

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   _mj_ | May 11, 2022 10:35pm | #4

   Plan to overbuy in boardfeet by 30% minimum. The investment of time and sweat far outweigh winding up with a so-so chair and slivers of scrap. Even better, buy enough for 3 chairs and plan on building two. I built a similar pair and the setup time was the main cost of each operation. If one would have taken a week, two would take 10 days.

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   curmudgeon | May 12, 2022 07:59am | #5

   Thx MJ

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   tbonetim | May 12, 2022 04:46pm | #6

   Apparently the plans existed at one time. I've followed various links and trails and they all dead-end when searching for plans that would include a cut list. You have access to the article you're aware of and the excellent video series on the project (https://www.finewoodworking.com/project-guides/chairs-benches-and-stools/build-a-bow-arm-morris-chair-2), but neither include the cutlist.

   It's very cool that FW made digital plans available without charge to unlimited members, but apparently some of the plans that used to be available for purchase have been dropped, as seems to be the case with Greg's chair project.

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   daverichards | May 12, 2022 05:39pm | #7

   "...but apparently some of the plans that used to be available for purchase have been dropped, as seems to be the case with Greg's chair project."

   I expect that was at Mr. Paolini's request.

   There's enough information in the article to develop a digital model of the chair and from that generate a cutlist along with full sized patterns as appropriate.

   Or maybe a similar but different design would be an option.

   
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   curmudgeon | May 12, 2022 08:28pm | #8

   I ordered the book hoping for plans. There’s enough to go on in the book, including the cut list. I suspect the videos will help as well. The book was published in ‘15 and I’m guessing there’ll be some differences between the video, the article and the book.

   Thank you all for your help!

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   daverichards | May 14, 2022 05:06pm | #9

   Good luck.

   Just for the fun of it I started a 3D model based on the article. A few details yet to work out.

   
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   _mj_ | May 14, 2022 09:15pm | #10

   Dave, what you do "for fun" is impressive. Out of curiousity, what kind of time went into that model?

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   daverichards | May 14, 2022 10:14pm | #11

   Thank you. I worked on it off and on while doing other stuff today. Had I just concentrated on it I suppose I'd have modeled it in about 30 to 45 minutes. The only joinery done so far is the tenons on the tops of the legs. A few minutes to add tenons and then using them to cut the mortises and it would be done. Maybe another 10 minutes.

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   john_c2 | May 15, 2022 06:12am | #12

   Wow.

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   daverichards | May 15, 2022 07:58am | #14

   Thank you.

   FWIW I did have all the dimensions in the article in front of me so very little to actually figure out on my own.

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   roy.unit8c | May 15, 2022 07:15am | #13

   Then there's the newbies efforts at SketchUp that might take days. DaveR is the sage of SketchUp and makes it look easy. Stay with it and eventually you get better (I'm counting on that.)

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   daverichards | May 15, 2022 08:40am | #15

   I think it's just the same as learning any woodworking skill. It takes practice to learn which tools are right for the job and when to use them. The practice also develops muscle memory and the ability to think ahead to work out an efficient order of operations.

   Keep plugging away and you'll get it.

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    curmudgeon | May 17, 2022 11:17pm | #16

    Dave R, nice rendering. I decided a couple of years ago, after a small handful of attempts at Sketchup, to walk away. I’m old school enough to enjoy The drafting table, t-square n drafting squares I used in high school. I admire and appreciate what y’all are doing with sketchup n similar. Wish I had that level of gumption. So… love to see what you did. It’s pretty cool n would love to be able to do it. Thanks for the rendering. I know you had time invested in it.

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   Jkatzowitz | May 18, 2022 08:25am | #17

   It's interesting how things in life can circle back around over time. I was, until I retired, a professional designer/illustrator. I started out doing hand renderings and working drawings (pencils, triangles, markers, color pencils, etc.) before the advent of computer 3D modeling and rendering. Of course I adapted to the digital age in my professional life. However after I retired I realized how much I enjoyed the old school approach and went back to it when I started to design a "collection box" for my grandson. It's all about what works and makes you happy.

   As a side note, I did freelance illustration for Fine Woodworking magazine from about 1985 to 1990. I probably illustrated about 20 articles over that time, it was great fun.

   
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   daverichards | May 18, 2022 08:59am | #19

   Very nice illustration and the result.

   You are absolutely right. It's about what works and what makes you happy.

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   daverichards | May 18, 2022 08:58am | #18

   Thank you. I enjoy using the old-school methods too. I have my dad's and grandfather's drafting tools and sometimes use them. If that's what works best for you, I would say stick with it. For me the digital 3D models have a lot of benefits that I leverage. It's easier to make sure the design looks right from all angles and changes are quick and simple. I've never erased through my computer display, either. The other benefit is the information that is easily pulled out of the model. For example, you asked originally about how much wood you'd need for this chair. In less time than it takes me to type it, an extension tells me the total volume of the parts of the chair is 23.09 board feet. (Of course that doesn't include allowances for waste or defects.)

   As I said, if paper, pencil, and T-square work for you, keep at it. There are lots of benefits to doing that. Good luck with the chair build and I think we are all expecting photos of it so keep us in mind.

   On a different note, some years ago I designed a drafting table for a guy who was building it for his daughter. I designed it and created the plans using SketchUp and LayOut. someone told me is was anachronistic. :D If you're bored: https://flic.kr/p/9AyjYL

   Dave