Hello everyone. I often sit with family and friends and eventually they ask me what kind of project I’m working on. It eventually leads to my telling them about the ideas I have that I hope to build “soon”. Recently someone said to me—“Ya know Dave, You have some real creative ideas, but when are we going to actually see the finished product”? Now granted, I’m quite busy trying to keep up with the projects which make my living, however, it really got me thinking. So I came up with a phrase which I think I will hang up in the shop—“Creativity Without Creation is Just a Dream”.
I was just wondering if anyone else out there had some motivational phrase,s they would like to share. I think we all need to hear one from time to time.
Thanks ,
Dave
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Half the money now and the other half at delivery always motivated me.
"I never met a man who didn't owe somebody something."
Ah yes, you certainly have a point there. And I agree. However, I'm not just talking about motivation for "making a living". I'm sure we all have ideas in our heads regarding some project we would like to build whether for ourselves, a friend, or to "make a fortune " with. Yet, how many times we put them off for various reasons---including sitting around with family and friends just talking about it.
I wonder how many ideas out there over the years never came to be due to a lack of time or motivation. I wonder what we have missed over the years---what ideas some "not so well known" craftsmen have taken to their graves due to a lack of motivation. Sorry to sound so negative, but I just wonder.
Thanksall,
Dave
I was half joking about mine...sorry to ruin a good thought of yours.
"I never met a man who didn't owe somebody something."
Set a date and meet it even if you don't do it for a living. This will keep you fresh and moving along. It provides clarity and you will learn how to eliminate everything extraneous - extraneous tool fettling and coddling, extraneous tools themselves, evaluating new sharpening methods -all the crapola you read on these forums. You'll get rid of every twitch you used to have.
Boil it down to brass tacks....
Edited 7/5/2007 12:12 pm ET by BossCrunk
Half the money now and the other half at delivery always motivated me.
Hay'ul ye-yas.
Edited 7/5/2007 2:11 pm ET by BossCrunk
The sign in my shop reads:
I don't make mistakes, I make variations"
I've always used these with my employees:
Keep up the good work and the paychecks will continue!
Less talk... more work!
Keep the motivation coming!
The one I had for my lab employees (when I had them) was:
"The flogging will continue until morale improves."
DH, the Navy version of that is that all liberty is cancelled until morale improves but Submarines don't really have a morale problem only a verrrry dark sense of humor. It is really easy to dive the boat but it's surfacing that takes skill and talent. Paddy.
Hmmm... the ones I remember (and yes, squids do have a *dark* and morbid sense of humor):"To err is human, to forgive divine. Neither of which are Navy Policy."(picture of a very bloated dragon sitting under a tree surrounded by various dented pieces of armor)"Sometimes no matter how right you are, the dragon wins anyway."(picture of a stork w/ a frog in its mouth... the frog is choking the stork to keep it from swallowing)"Just remember... NEVER GIVE UP!!!"(picture of a very grumpy Calvin)"Everyone has a given number of things to accomplish during their time on Earth. Right now I'm so far behind, I'll live forever!"And then there was the ever-popular Murphy's Laws of Combat...Personally, I'm not much on the happy/feel-good sayings... they make me about gag (sorry, personality issue I guess). I much prefer the posters over at this link:http://despair.com/viewall.html(hint: they make very entertaining desktop wallpaper on your computer @ work... of course this may depend on your supervisors sense of humor!)Monte
Like "All ships are submersible - only submarines can do it more than once"?
Bob
thanksall
As the years go by and the old bones ache that little bit more
My favorite phrase is TIME AND TIDE WAIT FOR NO MAN.
Rgds. Boysie Slan Leat.I'm never always right but i'm always never wrong. Boysie
to eliminate stress: Worry never robs tomorrow of sorrow, it merely saps today of strength!!!!
Bob, my young child's question. " what did you do in the Navy daddy"? Answer, "sweetheart, I did my very best to make sure that our number of surfaces equaled our number of dives". Paddy
How about;
"There are two types of boats, submarines and targets"
PG
Pete, I wore that tee shirt on a cruise and was respectfuly asked not to wear it by the duty officer OF THE WATCH as he made his tour of the boat (ship) prior to taking the bridge. I got the message but also got a personal tour of the bridge and engine room. Paddy MM-1(SS)
Here are a couple for you:
Dinner is ready.
Your laundry is done.
There are others but I don't think the wife would appreciate my discussing them here!
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
My blearlydeloved makes lists, for me, and when some progress is made says "well thats on forteenth done" or some such. It drives me mad, but stops me going off at tangents and enjoying myself!
"Great ideas are a dime a dozen. The real success is in making them work."
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." -Thomas Edison
Well begun is half done. – Aristotle
If people didn't have problems, you wouldn't have a job.
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Probably not what you were looking for, but I found this article very interesting.
"Someone who is nice to you and rude to the waiter, or others, is not a nice person."
http://www.usatoday.com/money/companies/management/2006-04-14-ceos-waiter-rule_x.htm
In my business I run into people from trailer trash to c-level officers of Fortune 100 businesses. I can tell you there's no correlation between nice and money.
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Dave,
here's one for you (completely taken out of context of course):
"The craftsman, who wishes to do his work well, must first sharpen his tools."
Confucius, (aka. 孔夫子, Kong Fuze, K'ung Futzu) commenting on the topic of virtue.
The Analekts, Chapter 15, approx. 551-479 B.C.
There's always "Git 'er done."
Yes, and I wish there wasn't There's always "Git 'er done."
(along with "my bad.")
A stitch in time is only skin deep.
Dave,
When I was a racing cyclist we chain-gangers had a little phrase that always helped get our arses onto the saddles for the 3-hours-of-hell training rides, even when it was tossing it down ouside and close to freezing:
"The hardest part is getting out the front door".
In other words, once you were out there and peddlin' to get to the next town sign before all the other gangers on your wheel, it was great fun and no one had to think abut how to get motivated, even if you were soaked and dirty.
I find the same true with the woodworking projects. As the shed is but a step out of one door and into another, the motivational phrase has been cut down to its bare essentials:
"Get started".
Once again, as the first plank is planed and dimensioned then the first joint made, motivation ceases to be an issue - you are immersed in your happy pleasures and pushed along by your natural desire to get the next section completed. Is it not so?
Lataxe, who keeps on truckin'
I have had times when the fear of failure kept me from making anything.
My wife told me: "it's okay to make mistakes, it DOES grow on trees!"
I printed that and put it in my shop.
Mike
Mike,
I follow The Indian Rider's Philosophy when it comes to that alien concept "failure": It's just a design innovation.
Korky the cat has a similar philosophy concerning his physical faux-pas, such as falling out of the plum tree; or out of the cat bed whilst doing a snore-stretch: "I meant to do that"!
However, your wife is perfectly correct concerning the timber. Mine also comes free, via wood-fairies.
Lataxe, a Great Success (in His Own Way).
Mike,
That's exactly how I felt about the cabriole leg.
I thought about this discussion while working in the shop and came up with more thought.
It happened tonight when I showed the wife the newly shaped cabriole leg. She exclaimed,"That's beautiful, I love it!" Now that's motivation!
Thank you EVERYONE!
Now on the the ball & claw!
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Creativity Without Creation is Just a Dream
Tell me again what's wrong with a dream? Dreams are good.
I think if you tell somebody about something you want to make, they respond this way to encourage to do it. That's fine and understandable.
But sometimes dreaming is the right thing to do. Dreams are gifts from our creator. Those gifts aren't always cash and they don't always have to be redeemed or redeemable for cash.
Also, motivational slogans exist to encourage people who hate what they are doing. I don't need motivational slogans. You shouldn't either.
Adam
"The two harshest masters I ever worked for, were named 'bread', and 'cheese' ".
Samuel Taylor Coleridge
Nothing like necessity to get one motivated.
Ray
>>Creativity Without Creation is Just a DreamTell me again what's wrong with a dream? Dreams are good. <<key word is "just."
[Avoid schadenfreude]
I agree completely, Adam.
There is no such thing as creativity without creation. The phrase is a nonsequitor. In dreaming about projects one is creating ideas, insights, motivation, etc.
The finished product may be great to have, but the process - from dreams to building to enjoyment of the piece, itself, are all valuable and rewarding.
I think the person commenting to the original poster comes off as kind of rude, or at least ignorant. For the hobbiest, woodworking is not about filling your house with furniture, after all, but about much more. The dreaming is a big and rewarding part. Pity the OP's friend didn't value the OP's willingness to share those dreams and instead seemed to put his friend down with a sort of slap that: "you talk lot, but never do anything." That's just not cool.
Good Topic!! Hope to see more listed, too. I like these:
"Chance favors the prepared mind."
Louis Pasture~
"Even A Brick Wants To Be Something."
Louie Conn
Bill
Edited 7/5/2007 6:02 pm ET by BilljustBill
Go to my favorite website. http://www.despair.com
Bioman,
Thanks for the link...it has some interesting views....
Here's a quote I found between two other members on the quality of hiring workers topic....
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A business man told me years ago, "If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys"
Now that's a positive statement about reality, huh? LOL
Bill
"When the going gets weird, the Weird turn pro."
Hunter S. Thompson
Hey Dave,
I would have to rework your slogan to 'creativity without creation is still in the design phase'. After all, you're not procrastinating--you're just leaving yourself something to do later.
When all is said and done, thought plus belief equals manifestation...when you're ready, you'll make it.
lovin' life,
Chris.
Thanks:
I like this from the movie Flash Gordon (1980). Music by Queen.
On the occasion of Emperor Ming's betrothal to Dale Arden:
"All creatures will make merry on pain of death"
The other from Casablanca:
"Yes, well everyone in Casablanca has problems. Yours may work out. Now, if you'll excuse me..." Rick Blaine
Regards,
Hastings
Dave , Here are a few that I find myself repeating sometimes throughout each day .
" if it was easy anybody could do it "
" It's too bad ignorance is not painful "
" how good we are is how good we fix our mistakes "
lastly : " knowledge without experience is simply information "
Mark Twain
10. Eliminate slogans, exhortations, and targets asking for zero defects or new levels of productivity. Such exhortations only create adversarial relationships, as the bulk of the causes of low quality and low productivity belong to the system and thus lie beyond the power of the work force.
W. Edwards Deming
MY boss comes up with some good ones, the best he came up with but won't say around me anymore was "stress is a choice". I would hear that everyday just as things would start to go to crap. After one particularly bad rush out it came, you know Chris "stress is a choice". To that I heard the new guy in back with all the scary tattoos reply "ya knows brother, so's homicide".
I know as a hobbiest I only have a fraction of the time I wish I had for woodworking let alone experimenting with new techniques. It kind of hurts when you open up to people about what you want to accomplish and they come back with comments like "yeah, when will we see it" or "you'll never be able to do that, it takes years of practice". Maybe that is why us woodworkers are by nature a little more introverted.
You know though while answering this post I maybe have had a shift in my own thought process. For the last few years as society spirals out of control others and myself have pushed the blame onto modern technology for lack of time and a general grumpy disposition in the public. We have even blamed modernation for the decline of creativity and personal developement. Now if you look back a couple hundred years or so and consider how much effort was required just to survive ( farming, making tools, building the neccessities for a home ). To take time and innovate just for the sake of making things easier was a big risk, consider the amount of trial and error involved in making a new tool to harvest crops. If a farmer lost to much time his livestock and his family aren't going to have food and that ain't good.
Now we have all this technology and we don't have time to be creative or in some cases to be parents.
Try starting the workday off by spending 20-30 minutes building a new skill or developing a technique. Maybe do the same at the end of each work session and your outlook towards work will probably change and your abilities will grow by leaps and bounds as well.
A-Men brother!
[Avoid schadenfreude]
My Dad hand-lettered a sign for his workshop.
ACCURACY IS OUR GOLE
Ha !
Greg
Greg,
Have you seen the sign that says:
PLAN AHEA
d
Ray
Edit : Had a bit of trouble getting the "d" to appear directly under the "A"
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I have two signs above my bench:
My son's college, wherever he will be going (hopefully on a hockey scholarship) will be added to the wall next year.
I can't think of anything more motivational to me than keeping those places paid in full.
Jeff
What is it you love to do? If it's design, then don't cut that short. If it's completing a project, then make sure you do that on schedule. If there's another reason to keep to a schedule (being able to eat, or having a crib by the time the kid arrives...) do it.
Both the voyage and the destination are worthwhile.
A job worth doing is worth doing poorly.
If it's for your pleasure, do it to excess.
1) An ex-Navy Chief frind of mine always said:
Paint the fence!
As in, quit staring at it and paint. It's amazing what applying effort over time can produce, even if the plan isn't perfect.
2) An infamous golfer from my home town became famous for the phrase:
Grip it and rip it!
His philosophy was you are better off in the rough way down there, than in the fairway way back here. Applied, that means don't kill yourself with the analysis.
3) Nike: Just Do It!
4) But my ABSOLUTE FAVORITE is:
Motivation:
If a pretty poster and a cute saying are all it takes to motivate you, you probably have a very easy job. The kind robots will be doing soon.
This can be found with a lot of other choice sayings at: http://www.demotivators.com/viewall.html
One more:
"I may not be good, but at least I'm slow!"
And another....
"It's nice when it stops"
That is:
"It was hard, problematic, frustrating and expensive: but look what I made (glow)"!
I understand this is what motivates marathon runners (pain, achievement, endorphins - in that order).
Lataxe, a walker.
I may be slow, but I'm clumsy.
Non sibi sed patriae
Thanksall to everyone who has put their thoughts in here---I have been going through a tough time lately and all of your words have been very helpfull. The thought that sticks in my mind most (and I apologize for not remembering who it was) is to the fact that once you get into the shop and just start working, if you enjoy what you are doing, motivation just comes naturally.
I thank all of you for your "2- sense".
Dave
"Do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life."
My Three Laws of the Shop:
Safety First
Start square, finish square.
Every step you complete today is a step further away from the beginning and a step closer to the end.
I'm also fond of these...
"In the absence of money, we'll have to make do with talent." attributed to Sir Michael Balcon.
"Be brilliant at the basics."
"Take care of people first, things second."
"I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel." attributed to Maya Angelou.
"Yeah...KICK IT!" The Beastie Boys.
And finally, "Anything worth doing is worth overdoing."
tony b.
Thanksall,
If you get the name of an early riser you can sleep all day!.
Rgds. Boysie Slan Leat.I'm never always right but i'm always never wrong. Boysie
I'm up at the crack 'o dawn, 4:30 AM here in Northern NH, in the summer anyway.
Now if you're on the Left Coast, you can sleep for another 3-4 hours! But we probably won't get up B4 Boysie!
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Dave,
I made a small plack/sign and put it up in my shop of a phrase that was my grandad's favorite thing to say and I even tell people the saying when they ask me why I havn't got a project completed, the phrase is;
"THERE'S A LOT MORE TO IT THAN JUST TALKING ABOUT IT"
Some day I'd like to make a little sign/plack to hang up in my shop with these phrases also,
IF YOU DON'T LIKE HOW LONG THE JOBS TAKING,CLOSE YOU MOUTH AND OPEN YOUR EARS,DO WHAT YOUR TOLD, FOUR HANDS ARE BETTER THAN TWO ANY DAY!
ALSO
EVERYONE'S WELCOME TO COME ON OVER ,SHOW ME HOW TO CORRECTLY BUILD A PROJECT SO IT DOESN'T TAKE ME SO LONG THE NEXT TIME.
Or
Simply say,
To Each Is Their Own,The World Around. and if you don't like how long it's taking me,DO IT YOURSELF,THIS WAY IN YOUR MIND IT'S DONE TO PERFECTION!
Sincerely,
Jim at Clark Customs
Lead, follow, or get out of the way?
1) "Your next payraise will be effective as soon as you are".
2) "You can do whatever you damn well please, your last day of work"
About a given project, ask yourself "who cares?"
The answer should provide the necessary motivation.
[Avoid schadenfreude]
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All you've got............is NOW
is my motivator
As a former salesman and now trial attorney (glorified salesman) there are two or three which have helped me in all aspects of my life:
1. "all they can do is say no"
2. "a "no" is an opportunity to get a "yes"".
3. "close"
PMM
"Everything should be as simple as possible - but no simpler." Albert Einstien
"P*ss poor plannning on your part, doesn't constitute an emergency on mine".........
Sarge.. john thompson
My favorite; "If it was easy, you wouldn't need me"
Rich
The Professional Termite
Here's another:
Be Not the First on Which the New is Tried, nor the Last to Lay the Old Aside.
Bill
"If I want you people to have an opinion, I'll tell you what it f***ing is." - Navy Aviation Ordnance Senior Chief
"Work is love made visible." Kahlil Gibran...My favorite for motivation. DWW
"Build a man a fire, you've warmed him for a night;
Set a man on fire, and you've warmed him for the rest of his life!"
AWESOME
Dear Dave,
"Anything worth doing, is worth doing poorly.............. until I can learn to do it well"... Zig Ziglar
Best,
John
For you cooks:
"It's the rare dish that can't be improved by the addition of either garlic or whipped cream, but rarely by both."
Hello everyone,
When I started this topic I never thought it would get such a response. Some of you have made me laugh (thanks, I needed that) , other's have caused me to do some really serious contemplating ( thanks, I needed that too) . Thank you all.
Somewhere back along the way, forgive me for not going back to find out who, someone said that if you love what you do, you don't need motivational phrases. I agree, generally. But when someone you care about very much goes in for a life threating operation, a string of relationships go bad, and a big job you were depending on ( I work for myself, by myself ) goes down the tubes, sometimes you do need a little motivational insight. Well, at least I do anyway.
Again, thank you all very much for your thought,s. They really have helped me get motivated again. I hope that someday when one of you need a little motivational boost that I can be of some help to you.
Thanks again,
Dave
I always liked this one:
"PROPER PLANNING PREVENTS PISS POOR PERFORMANCE"
Jeff
Always remember: For every silver lining, there is a dark cloud.
Politics is the antithesis of problem solving.
I love this one by Calvin and Hobbs;
" When life throws you a lemon, wing it right back and add some lemons of your own"
That's one I've got hanging in the shop.
Dave, I have been following this thread with lots of laughs and some deep thinking much like you did. Lots of good stuff! I tend to be a funny guy with lots of jokes and funny comments to make usually so I was thinking about what is in my shop. When I built the shop building my family kidded me that it looked more like a country church than a shop, I even joked about declaring it to be church and using the table saw as the alter. Think of the great tax dodge it would be, and the tax write-off the lumber mill would get if they donated lumber to me! Anyway, while I was still building it my youngest daughter banged together two scraps of wood and made a simple cross for my "church". She hung it on my wall and it has been there ever since. The more I thought about it the more I realized that it was all the motivation I ever need.
A few years later she took a ceramics class as an elective in school, and made me a sign to hang above the front door to the shop. Simply says "Daddy's Shop" with a cross on it. What other motivation could I possibly ask for?
Here's one I learned just yesterday:
Success is not the key to happiness - Happiness is the key to success!
PS: Great thread you started!Chris @ flairwoodworks
Sometimes the good lord tests us, faith untested is faith unrewarded.
Each hardship overcome is training for the next one.
Some days in the game of life we are players other days we are the coach.
Hi Dave,
First off, thanks for starting this discussion.
Recently I embarked on making my first cabriole leg, which I readily admit has challenged me for quite some time. I finally mustered the courage to give it a go.
Without a lathe and a spokeshave, at one point I thought I was doomed. Not to worry, I've got lots of sandpaper and rasps and files, go forward I said to myself.
After shaping to what I thought was acceptable, I posted some pics. A very experienced fellow Knothead posted the following:
"I wish my first effort at a cabriole leg looked as good."
To me, that was MOTIVATION!
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
"do or do not, there is no try." yoda
The one that repeatedly runs through my head when I'm spinning my wheels on some trivial task, "Fish or cut bait."
gj,
On the topic of fishing: You can give a man a fish, and feed him for a day; or
You can teach a man to fish, and
He'll lie for the rest of his life.
Ray
Another take on the topic of fishing I recently saw on a t-shirt worn by a fisherman's wife:
You can give a man a fish, and feed him for a day; or
You can teach a man to fish, and he'll sit in a boat drinking beer all day!
Personally I saved a fortune and sold my boat years ago, now I can just sit on the deck after a long good day in the shop to drink beer while we grill the fish we bought at the seafood market. Saves the expense and trouble I had maintaining the boat, and then still having to go by the market. I realized years ago I was a better woodworker/beer consmer/grill operator than a fisherman, go with what you are good at I guess.
Before someone chimes in- I don't drink a beer until the shop is locked up for the day, nor do I drink one before driving to the seafood market. I'm well over 21, not pregnant, etc.
<<On the topic of fishing:>>I think it was Douglas MacArthur that once said, "Old fisherman never die, they just smell that way."Mike
The ox is slow....but the Earth is patient
Do not speak..unless it improves the silence....
Excellence is in the details....
Do not mock what you don't understand
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, wer ist jetzt der Idiot ?
My old boss used to say:
"If you're gonna be dumb, you've gotta be tough."
I kind of liked that one so I adopted it myself. One that I have had to come up with on my own (particularly in view of how pricing is done in this area of the country) is:
"Two words that should never be used in the same sentence are 'good' and 'cheap'."
"Stay away from people who belittle your ambitions, small people always do that, but the really great make you feel that you too can become great." Mark Twain
That is my favorite but I also like a quick funny line like....
"You don't sweat much for a fat girl." Rodney Dangerfield
There are more old drunkards than old doctors. Ben Franklin
Tell me and I'll forget, show me and I'll remember but let me try and I will understand.
So what happens when you do have the motivation and drive to build something from an idea? You have the time, money and skill to think of something completely unique and groundbreaking in furniture design......You go out and spend hundreds of dollars on wood, spend hours upon hours designing it and weeks of your sweat equity building it until the final product stands in front of you?
You wind up with this piece of crap!
"While one person hesitates because he feels inferior,
the other is busy making mistakes and becoming superior."
Henry C.
One statement I read the awhile back that sticks with me everyday...
"When you finally got the design, the wood and all the tools you will need the only thing left between you and a great project in your integrity."
That challenges me everytime I feel like cutting a corner.
Coach B
Yup. My Wood Technology Prof at The University of Cincinnati once told me: When you're done, you're done for good so do it right the first time." I still carry it with me to this day.
mike
mv,
I'll have to disagree with you on this one. A local sheet metal shop has this sign on their wall, behind the counter:
"Never enough time to do it right; always enough time to do it over."
Ray
My phrase for work applies to about everything that we do,
"If you don't have time to do it right the first time; how are you going to find time to do it over?"
Take the time the job requires, and do it right.
Hello,
I started woodworking making a little treasure chest to my first daughter 5th B-day. Making it gave me so much pleasure I continued that now tradition with the following children. I am at them moment making a treasure chest like an ohian barn, for child number 4. My little daughter (number 5) keeps asking when I will start hers.
Each chest I make totally different, playing with possibilities. New projects keep coming, only for people I care for.
The motivation I find in doing a project like those I mentioned is to think it is made for my children and they will pass them to their own children. I make them to convince them I loved them all.
Therefore my simple sentence would be something like 'show them you love them'
Carlos
Remember it's the early worm that gets eaten by the bird.
Somedays you're the windsheild and somedays you're the bug.
Life is tough. It's tougher if you're stupid.
Wer're not building a piano here.
If this job was easy little girls in green dresses would be doing it and we'd be selling cookies out in front of the grocery store.
And my #1 favorite comes from The Rock "Loosers try their best, winners go home and f*ck the prom queen"John O'Connell - JKO Handcrafted Woodworking
The more things change ...
We trained hard, but it seemed that every time we were beginning to form up into teams, we would be reorganized. I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing; and a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while producing confusion, inefficiency, and demoralization.
Petronious Arbiter, 210 BC
When working on projects where management or engineering isn't too good our motto is "It looks so nice because we did it twice". Or we'll sing it as "Do your job once...take it down and put it up again...it ain't done right if it ain't done twice...oh the doodah day..."
This one was on a sign in front of a local church, "don't ever give up... Moses was once a basket case..."
Enjoy ya'll, Chris.
The early bird gets the worm; the second mouse gets the cheese.
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