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   oldbeachbum | Oct 23, 2006 11:49pm | #1

   I'm almost afraid to say this....BUT....the right tool for the right job sound familiar?

   Check everything very carefully to make sure that nothing else is broken or cracked.  Get yourself some decent scrap or cutoffs of SUITABLE size and make various cuts and double check them against your squares and combo squares etc.  Redo your set-ups if needed and if they don't "stay" find a good tool repair and tell'em what happened and have them fix it correctly.  Be patient and spend the $ if needed otherwise you're just throwing it away on a bad tool and will damage and ruin more good material.

   You also jeopardize your own safety doing stunts like that.

   Oh, yeah.   Don't do that again !!! 

   ...The unspoken word is capital. We can invest it or we can squander it.  -Mark Twain...... :0)

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   rlbarn | Oct 24, 2006 05:47pm | #8

   OK, I learned my lesson.....right tool, right job, read the manual. I did prepare a new work piece and made a very good (and safe) resaw cut on my table saw. I will do all the checks on the Bosch and review the manual for the proper cuts, although I was interested to hear that a few others have tried this stunt on the miter saw. I really appreciate all your feedback to the new woodworker. This is a great website. I am a mechanical engineer who has finally found a hobby that combines precision and aesthetics. I think I will be at this for a good while. I hope to inform you of safer and positive activities in the future, By the way, I have just finished my first project: I built the "Rock Solid Work Bench (with vise) for under $250"; a plan that was in an ealier issue of FW. Really solid.

   RLBARN

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   forestgirl | Oct 24, 2006 06:56pm | #9

   "...although I was interested to hear that a few others have tried this stunt on the miter saw."  Keep in mind that Knots has its share of idio....uh, less-than-wise woodworkers.   forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-) 

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   BMilton | Oct 24, 2006 11:27pm | #11

   And some of us less than wise woodworkers have the scars to remind ourselves what idiots we were!

   Bob

    

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   BruceS | Oct 24, 2006 11:58pm | #12

   Is it the one who freehand climb cuts with a panel raiser ??  ;-{

   Work Safe,  Count to 10 when your done for the day !!

   Bruce S. 

    

   Edited 10/24/2006 4:59 pm ET by BruceS

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   sfmc | Oct 25, 2006 03:14am | #13

   What's wrong with making climb cuts with a panel raising bit?

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   BruceS | Oct 25, 2006 04:06am | #15

   Ok SFMC,  If the SFMC stands for what I think it does your chatting with a DC2,  I didn't stay in long enough to make MC, Just one hitch.  Just where in the NEO snow belt ??  Me too. Thompson.    Have you been to the Eagle America, Woodworkers Outlet ??  I work there part time,  stop in some time for a chat.Work Safe,  Count to 10 when your done for the day !!

   Bruce S. 

    

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   oldbeachbum | Oct 25, 2006 07:04am | #20

   ...and they still let us play with the sharp thingies, you know, whatever they call'em                ;0)...The unspoken word is capital. We can invest it or we can squander it.  -Mark Twain...... :0)

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   kingwoodworks | Oct 24, 2006 12:31am | #2

   Wow!  I'm scared and I wasn't even there! 

   At least you got the first part right.  Short pieces like I think you are talking about should not be resawn on a table saw. 

   Read the Bosch's safety manual.  It will tell you the types of cuts you can make (and how to make them) and the type of cuts you should never attempt to make.

   Bob

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   JMartinsky | Oct 24, 2006 01:15am | #3

   Dear R,
   I am going to get beat up for this, but that's not new. I have done the operation that mentioned a lot of times. It is a bit hairy, for the very reason that you have described. Having had that happen, I would check the blade for wobble. Just spin t up briefly and look down the edge of the blade as it slows to see if you can discern any wobble. I have bent blades doing what have done and it is a bit frightening. I have all Hitachi sliders and they take the abuse fairly well, I imagine that Bosch can take it as well. It was already mentioned about the right tool, so I don't need to repeat. I am curious, though, what took the chip out of the fence? Do you think that it was the piece, or the blade?

   Best,

   John (Evil)

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   Rich14 | Oct 24, 2006 07:10am | #7

   Martinsky, I would put you in a straight jacket if I knew you were within a mile of a woodworking shop.And like a wide receiver catching a short pass over the middle, you knew this hit was coming, and I hope there will be piling on, too.Rich

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   JMartinsky | Oct 25, 2006 04:19am | #16

   Dear Rich,
   No sweat, but what's the matter with MY straight jacket?Best,John

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   dgreen | Oct 25, 2006 04:25am | #17

   If we ever get a chance to meet I'm sure I'll recognize you right away, I figure by now you must look like Buster the intrepid test subject on Myth Busters! :)------------------------------------

    The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -- Herbert Spencer (1891)

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   JMartinsky | Oct 25, 2006 04:33am | #18

   Think more like Fire Mashall Bill.......................

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   mike_b | Oct 25, 2006 12:26pm | #22

   <Think more like Fire Mashall Bill......................>That's right boys and girls -- the Bucket Boss straight jacket, under $200, and worth every penny.

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   JMartinsky | Oct 25, 2006 04:33am | #19

   or the straight jacket.........

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   forestgirl | Oct 24, 2006 01:19am | #4

   "I did make some cross cuts with it later after my heart stopped pounding, and it seemed to cut ok."  Well, at least that's a good sign.  You chipped part of the fence?!  I have an earlier model of that saw, and there's a little more than 1/2" of clearance between the blade and the right fence!

   I'd be concerned about the reliability of the sawblade teeth, assuming that's what you hit the fence with (somehow).  You probably want a different blade on there anyway (although the Bosch blade that came with mine was pretty darned good for a stock blade).

   If the blade isn't bent, hopefully not too much pressure was put on the arbor.  What parts did you put leverage pressure on to get the blade out of the wood?

   I would get a very good blade, stick it on there and check it for any abnormal run-out.

   Miter saws are made for c-r-o-s-s-c-u-t-s.

   forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-) 
   

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   marking | Oct 24, 2006 05:20am | #5

   please,please,please be careful. another thing to remember on the bosch slider is move the fence over before making a bevel cut! it's too easy to not do because nothing in the design of the saw will stop the blade from cutting the fence off. every carpenter i know with the bosch has a nicked or trimmed off fence. one guy even ended up with a face full of aluminum shards. yikes!

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   user-211435 | Oct 24, 2006 06:50am | #6

   Please don't ever do that again.  You were lucky.  It is impossible to order 4 beers if you only a wad of gauze on your hand.

   A sliding miter saw is not designed for ripping.  I have done it, many professionals have done it.  It is stupid.  We do it because we are in a hurry and are trying to make money.  Plus we are pretty good with tools.   

   Hal

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   mike_b | Oct 24, 2006 07:54pm | #10

   <Instead of trying to resaw a short length of board safely on the table saw, I thought I could quickly resaw it on miter.>

   Not to pile on, but as others have said, it's not a good idea to rip/resaw on a tool designed for crosscut. I'd just be happy the only thing damaged was the saw. As you are new to woodworking, it would be a good idea to get some formal instruction or do some reading about basic stock preparation procedures and the tools used to accomplish them. You can certainly learn from experience alone, but as you've just discovered, it can be exciting at times. Good luck, and I hope your new saw is none the worse for its excellent adventure.

   
   

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   Edited 10/24/2006 3:35 pm ET by Mike_B

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   Glaucon | Oct 25, 2006 03:55am | #14

   I have been tempted to do similar things myself... I had a piece of birdseye maple go whistling past my ear when the fence on my RAS gave way on one occasion. Still, I hate to toss out even small off cuts of highly figured wood. So now when I am tempted I reach for a Disston. Takes longer (just a little), is perfectly safe and pretty good therapy.Glaucon

   If you don't think too good, then don't think too much...

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   oldbeachbum | Oct 25, 2006 07:20am | #21

   I've been doing this ww stuff for years and still feel new at it sometimes.

   You have been given lots of good info here and I think you realize now how lucky you were.  FYI, when all else fails use common sense, slow down and look the situation over.  Your an engineer, right?  Good at analyzing?  Do it.

   While you're at it get yourself some good clamps,  feather boards and various hold downs.  Don't skimp, get good ones and learn how and when to use them.  Ex:  a good  parallel clamp  is really handy for holding small pieces while keeping your hands away from cutting bits and blades (think routers, etc.)  Push sticks are a must.

   I know this sounds simplistic but if you haven't done this in a while go back to the basics or better yet take an evening adult ed class.  Don't play when you're tired and careful with certain light sources and how they make moving blades appear to be at rest.  (Some older style fluorescent ballasts)

   be safe and have fun

   ...The unspoken word is capital. We can invest it or we can squander it.  -Mark Twain...... :0)

   
   

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   Edited 10/25/2006 2:53 am by oldbeachbum

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   rlbarn | Oct 25, 2006 08:06pm | #23

   Thanks for all the good advice. I just bought a few decent clamps at the HD over lunch. I would like to take a class, I've seen some two week deals in really cool places like Vermont and points north (I am from the DEEEEP south). I'll check out the local votech places first.

   Cheers.

    

   RLBARN