My next tool purchase? Suggestions?
It’s time for another tool for this tool junkie
how about suggestions (and it’d help if this time I use the tool instead of just opening the box and looking at it )
If you don’t come up with a good suggestion, I’ll probably buy some more Snap-On ‘s
Just to limit duplication here’s a brief list of my currant collection. My preferance is towards power but a really great hand tool is acceptable..
power tools
14″ Bandsaw, 12″cabinet saw, 20″ planer, Lathe, 8’jointer, 6″ power handplaner(2) chain mortiser, groove cutter, 16″ circular saw, Mag77, 71/4 sidewinder,5″ battery saw, 9 drills drillpress, 7 nail guns, shaper, belt sander, bisquit jointer, routers(3) curved base power planer, sawzall(2)
Hand tools, 4 Lie Nelsons, 2 Stanley hand planes, Stanley hand saw, hand chisels carving knife set, hammers etc..
does anyone make a great hand saw? (one that works perfectly right out of the box) Any hand tools that are really nice quality?
Please don’t send me looking for some swap meet/ garage sale item.. If I can’t order it ready to use I don’t want it..
Replies
Set of Japanese razor saws
Set of Rasps, specialty and common
Set of Rifflers
Set of Micro-Planes
Digi-Fence for your table saw (I love mine!)
Tormek Sharpening System
Clamps, Clamps, more Clamps
SATAJet 2000 Digital HVLP
Hope I helped a little.
Lazarus
Remeber, "Wisdom is the toughest of teachers! She gives the test first and the lesson after."
I have most of that (including an unused complete Tormex system) while I can use more clamps,... I suppose.. I have never run out of clamps yet..
but,,
what are rifflers?
I've got a good, easy, relatively inexpensive suggestion that you'll wonder how you ever got by without - http://www.coastaltool.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/a/milw/mi6140.htm?L+coastest+ffkn9038ffc92ac9+1057037375 - - at this price, I reccommend two, so you can leave one set up with...
...a Lancelot or two http://woodworker.com/cgi-bin/FULLPRES.exe?PARTNUM=828-720 ...
...stock up on disks, 36 grit are useful around rough work - useful for coping and relieving the type of trim you're going to be using - you'll reach for it everyday...
Sorry I've got both, and a 7 inch grinder used on occasion with these big timbers..
Hey I'm glad you answered..
I found a new use for those telescopic forklifts I sell..
spraying apple trees.
What's neat is I'm above all the spray and can spray from the top down (I've got a couple of standard sized trees that are over 30 feet tall).
This year is shaping up to be a heck of a yield.. when should I start thinning? (I'm already carefully picking off any double or triples that are on one branch but I can see a lot of sagging already)...
I've got both
I should hve guessed... howz about the Delta 13" two speed finishing planer? - again, good for that trim you are going to be dealing with...
good idea on the spray, always good to hve gravity on your side - - get on the thinning ASAP, thin fruit to singles at least 6" apart, and you have to think in 3-D, as the limbs bend under load, fruit tend to end up on top of each other, I usually clip pendulous weak growth, that's where the little green fruit is produced - it's difficult to thin enough during an 'on' year, so be aggressive, much better to hve fewer big sweet fruit than bushels of little green crap...
which make me think; howz about a real tool? http://www.durand-wayland.com/1705.html
I've got the 12 1/2 inch delta but it ain't worth too much, much prefer the Grizzley 20inch, (it's a two speed)
Cool sprayer,
I wonder what the neighbors would say if I fired that beast up..
Hey Frenchy-
If I may be so bold, what are you gonna do with all these tools once your house is done? Or is it one of those I'll-never-quite-be-finished-with-it kind of projects?
Besides, sounds like you've got everything already. Go buy your wife some nice jewelry or something :)
Oh, I'm just jealous of your 50,000 BF of lumber you buy for $0.10 a BF...
Kevin
The tools well, He who dies with the most wins, right? Anyway, I was thinking that my last project should be my own coffin.
As for my wife,, history has shown that anything I buy her goes back or hangs in the closet unused.. We have a simple rule...... if she wants anything she buys it, If I want anything I buy it..
Makes for boring Christmas / birthday's etc.. but it works for us..
Frenchy-- a tool that doesn't get used a lot, but is invaluable when I do need it is my Fein Multi-Master sander. Its great not only for sanding in areas that you would normally be hand sanding (yuck!), but also has some very useful accessories for cutting wood, removing old grout, and scraping. The whole set up is about $ 180 U.S. Get the steel case, the plastic one doesn't really have room for the cord, let alone the accessories. Hope this helps, and let us know what new toys you buy.
Before the Fein was available locally I bought the Royobi version.. It's worked OK for the few times I've used it but I agree the Fein is far and away a nicer one.. I just can't find a real use,, but as soon as I do one will be added..
It's kinda like my hammer drill.. I first bought a black and decker and that thing wasn't worth two cents, I then bought one called a red ram based on the recommendation of some electricians.. better but still took a long time to go thru cement etc..
I then bought a cordless Dewalt and that was a step backwards followed by the Hilti!
what a wonder! I could drill a 1 inch hole into two inches of granite in about 30 seconds on the soft setting..
I guess the moral of the story is there is one tool which is the "best" in any given catagory.. the real trick is to find that "best one" before you buy wrong ones..
frenchy-- another tool that I've always wanted is a panel saw for cutting plywood. I make use of the one at my local lumber yard when I need to ( try that at HD ), but it sure would be handy to have one at my beck and call. Alas, I neither have the room or the money for one right now.
I was thinking panel saw, too. Once I get to the point where I have every possible tool I ever wanted, then I might think of sizing out a spot in the shop for a panel saw. Then,...vacuum veneer press? Once I win that lawsuit against Mickey D's for selling me gut bombs and trying to make me fat, I'm on it.
Kreg Jig
assorted pocket hole screws
Tons of McFeelys Screws various sizes and materials
4 1/2 Pneu grinder ( like it better than the electric i used to have)
Felker Tile saw
Assorted Tile tools
Templaco door templates
Templaco door lockset boreing kit
Bessey Clamps
More clamp
More clamps
Accuspray HVLP or LVLP (thats what I got and love it)
Didnt see if you mentioned a CSMS go for the Mak
Preformax sander
Assorted Stabilia levels
Laser level
Frenchy my bro I can always spend money on tools...:>)
Darkworks: No Guns No Butter squilla and the bling bling.
Everything but the HVLP, except I have a differant brand of tile sawand door templates (not used as of yet) My CSMS is a De Walt
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Rifflers are specialty rasps and files used for carving and sculpting.
I second the cordless Impact Driver nomination, or perhaps you might go for a dedicated moulding machine.LazarusRemeber, "Wisdom is the toughest of teachers! She gives the test first and the lesson after."
who makes the best and what do they cost?
I have always been told that the Italian jobbies were the best, but I can't say that it is true since I have only owned one set. I got mine at Woodcraft for about $200 for a set of 16. Here is a link to their current catologue offering if you want to check it out.
http://shop.woodcraft.com/Woodcraft/product_family.asp?family%5Fid=281&gift=False&mscssid=30A45170919447A68F1F598E168F3F77LazarusRemeber, "Wisdom is the toughest of teachers! She gives the test first and the lesson after."
I'm sorry,, I wouldn't go to woodshafters if they were selling hundred dollar bills for ten cents and there was no limit..
There are plenty of other great woodworking stores to patronize..
Hey! No need to be sorry. I can feel your pain, but that was the store I chose to get my gift set from for ease of pick-up, etc...
I am sure you can go to any fine woodworking store and find the same tools. Check out Lee Valley's selection. They have them broken out into three categories, but they are still pretty much the same as buying a complete set.
LazarusRemeber, "Wisdom is the toughest of teachers! She gives the test first and the lesson after."
Edited 7/1/2003 12:40:41 PM ET by Lazarus
Frenchy: "Does anyone still make a good Hand saw"? = Hmmm good queston as IM still hunting for some myself,I keep buying up all the Disston D23s I can get my hands on at Flea markets & then sharpen & set there teeth..Great older tools...
ToolDoc
Time for a wooden handplane or two. http://www.knight-toolworks.com is just the ticket.
OK I'll bite, why a wooden plane? what do they do better then another plane?
Frenchy the only thing I can tell you is that no one makes a really good saw anymore or at least not like they used to. The old Disstons are great saws and if you can find a old one in good shape and send it out for a tune up you will be much happier.
But if you want to buy off the shelf then check out the Pax line of handsaws. Lee Valley sels them not sure who else does in your neck of the woods.
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?page=46886&category=1,42884&ccurrency=1&SID=
Scott C. Frankland
"This all could have been prevented if their parents had just used birth control"
Scott: $98.00 Bucks for a Pax Hand saw OUCH!! I remember thinking I paid a lot 30 yrs ago when I forked over $15.00 for Brand new Disston D23s..LOL.
ToolDoc
Thanks Scott one of the guys at work has one,, sorry I'm not impressed... while it is better than the worthless Stanley I have it's marginally better.. (at least in my not so expert hands..)
Frenchy,
A second on the PAX saws. Was my first thought when I saw your post.
If they're a bit too steep for you, try their Lynx range, same maker, slightly cheaper.
Here's the manufacturer's website.
Cheers,
eddie.
I'm courious why there is a lot of interest in saws that require the use of muscle rather than electrons. I can see it with real quality hand planes (after buying a set of Lie Nielsens) but is there some magic in hand saws?
The reason I ask is I can saw a very accurite and straight line with power tools but whenever I try to use a hand saw I get sweaty and do poor quality work.
I don't know why the interest frenchy, other than a hankering for nostalgia and developing skill with hand tools, as opposed to guiding an electric saw.
And the fact that you can work with it at midnight without getting anybody offside.
You're right, electric saws are quicker and easier and straighter, but there are some instances where a handsaw is more appropriate. I use one for rough docking. Hangs next to the bench, six strokes and a 2 x 1 is cut off. Far quicker than setting up a chopsaw.
Cheers,
eddie
frenchy, I'm gonna guess that you already have these "tools"...
You need a good cider press and/or a stainless steel fermenter. Set aside a week this fall (and every fall!) to press cider and make wine!
I'd die happy if all I had to do was build furniture and make wine...
I would also probably die drunk and broke...
tony b.
excellant suggestion, As soon as the house is done I intend to harvest some of the grapes in my yard, the apples, currants, raspberry's etc. and see what kind of wine i can make..
The kitchen sink seems about the next best buy?
It's right there in the picture? see it? next to the dishwasher, by the refrigerator?
OK it's only roughed in, but it's brand new..
how do I post pictures anyway... darn it!
Cordless impact driver.
nigelusa,
sorry I should have said that I have about ten cordless tools including a cordless hammer driver.
How about a bigger bandsaw so you can resaw some of those massive "scraps" you have lying around. A power feeder might also make a nice addition to your shop, seeing as how you have a lot of lumber to work with. If you've got the budget a small wide belt sander would be a good tool to have. Oh, and a good compressor and spray gun setup would save you a lot of time when your finishing your house.
I can handle all of my scraps except the 18 inch wide stuff so there really isn't a need for a bigger bandsaw, the power feeder is coming with the bigger shaper.. I have a big compressor, gun etc. Maybe a HVLP gun at some point..
A wide belt sander would be nice if I could figure a use for it..
Oscillating Spindle Sander
TDF
I've thought of one of those but since I'd need to sand 9 to 12 inch wide timbers, I'm not certain they make one big enough.. do you know of any?
Frenchy,
I gotta believe you could make good use of a re-saw. Others have mentioned a bigger bandsaw..but how about a nice re-saw with a nice wide blade that would allow you to make paneling for the house..and thiner boards for all kinds of stuff.
Japanese pull saws and chisels with waterstones
How about a profile grinder for that shaper of yours? That Ziel brand advertised in Fine Woodworking is a great little tool for around $700
How about a doweling machine or a Krieg Jig for drilling pocket screw holes. This was the best $125.00 well spent about 8 yrs ago, even to this date
More routers and more and more routers
3 shapers would be even nicer, especially with 1-2 power feeders.
Carbide cope/stick/panel cutters(Freeborn is my choice)
Destako toggle clamps(check spelling fpr destako?)
Another kid to clean your shop when you don't feel like doing it yourself. Of course this takes 18 years or more to train them. I don't really think that there is a return on investment on this item.
well, here's one I've looked at a time or two - always been a little dear for the funds availible or couldn't justify it for the job (there is one a few miles away for hire) - a fine US made machine - http://www.williamsnhussey.com/cgi-bin/fly.cgi?mp+mpt+molderplaner
David, what kind of price do they have? I couldn't find it..
I believe around $1800 - I priced them last spring after I watched the local one at work - the guy who operates it is a bit of a cowboy (actually he's pretty good, can't say the same about some of his help) - - it was for this job, http://forums.taunton.com/tp-breaktime/messages/?msg=32352.1 - I would have bought one if this one hadn't been availible -
the best thing about it, if you have one and get in this mood again, you can always buy some cutters for it - -
w&h machines start around 1300 if i recall correctly.
Frenchy
so you want to use electrons rather than motor neuons
Makita have a 7 1/2 in slide compound mitre saw, available as corded or cordless, weighs less than 25lbs, will cut 2in x 7 1/4in, so should be just the thing to move from room to room as you trim that mansion of yours.
or go completely over the top and buy a resaw bandsaw - something like the Hitachi that takes a 3in blade.
a wet or dry diamond saw for cuttting stone and tile
an angle drill
a set of Colen Clenton gauges (cutting, mortise, pencil) and squares - they may not add much utility to your current set out gear, but they are beautiful (especially the lace sheoak models) and their is always something special about using a nice looking tool. see latest FWW
Didn't see a chainsaw in your list ; )
how about an apprentice?
why a resaw bandsaw?
I mean If I have nice thick burl boards, why not just put them on the floor as they are? that way they can be resanded many, many, times..
Those timbers with burl look fantastic. the fiddle back maple will be able to be sanded and resanded many times as well.
Veneer seems like cheating to me..
Ahh, but would you use thick burl boards for trim? or would you cut them down somewhat?
I wasn't so much thinking of veneer as breaking a 12 x 4 board into 6 x 1 trim. a resaw bandsaw would yield say 6 planks, a table saw only 4.
Also how many times are you thinking of sanding those thick boards? Once every 20 or 30 years should be more than enough, so why not double or trebble the yield from them? Afterall, I don't suppose you are increasing the joist spacing because you're using thick floor boards.
If I remember correctly you accumulate lumber. a resaw bandsaw should broaden the use to which you could put some of your stockpile.
Lastly, the sheer waste in turning most of a 2in fiddle back maple board into chips cause you only want a 5/8 one offends my sense of what is a responsible use of the resource. (I'm really just jealous that you have so much of it that you can think of using it as thick boards)
Frenchy, Picking up on Ian's theme, do you want bookmatched pieces for that front door?...or on maybe some raised paneling somewhere? A resaw could help you extract a lot of the beauty from your wood.
The other potential tool which I have not heard mentioned is a duplicator for your lathe.
I've got a duplicator {Vega} (actually two if you're willing to call that craftsman piece of ship a duplicator) as well as a spiral attachment and a bunch of other lathe stuff. In fact I've actually used those (as compared to all the stuff I've bought that's been opened and not used..)
As for book matched, I could just go thru the pile of wood untill I find matching pieces.. You know the saying, sooner or later everything/body has a twin.. with over ten thousand bd.ft. of ea. type of wood, it shouldn't be hard and if I couldn't find it that would be a perfect reason to add to my wood aholic problem..
I think we are both thinking of differant applications..
You are thinking in terms of jewery boxes and furniture while I've thinking in terms of structure..
A veneer would simply not hold up as a flooring, (pergo and the rest of those be dammned).
While I shed a tear when I put a wonderful piece of tiger striped black walnut on a piece of trim 40 feet in the air, (you can't see it without getting on stageing or on a work platform mounted on a telescopic forklift).
The trouble is that board of tigar striped black walnut is the the last 12 inch wide board I have that is 20 feet long. sure I could resaw it and get more out of it, but how many times do you need to have piece of veneer that's twenty feet long?
since veneer wouldn't look good as trim boards, nor hold up as well. (basically it'd be like putting plywood up as trim) I have no choice, it's trim..
I don't think we're too far apart. To my mind the primary purpose of cutting your own veneer is so you can do curved laminations for circular table aprons and the like, or to curve a piece of figured wood without the grain run-out you get if you try to shape a curve out of solid. Think of birds eye maple curved across a drawer front. I would never consider veneering trim.
I think you mentioned in an earlier post you had a moulder - how about a tool for cutting your own custom moulding knives?
dont think of a resaw bandsaw as a veneer application... Think of making radius trim casings jambs via a bent lamination. Combined with a vacum veneer press or forms you can create your own custom mill work combined with a moulding planer such as W&H or woodmaster.
perhaps we aren't. My scale of veneer is if I have the sawmill slice me some 1/2 thick timbers say twenty feet long. run them thru my planer and then glue them up in a homemade truss. say 30 feet long...
I need to be somewhat practical about this,, there is an unlimited number of things that I could spend money on.. what I'd like is something that will be usefull enough that I feel I got value out of it.. I don't do that exotic work often enough to justify the purchase of a machine to shape the knives to cut custom moldings etc..
That's something I will continue to shop out..
back to your original question
I'd suggest "another pair of hands" but the insurance would be a killer. Can't remember what tools you have for cutting trim but a trim saw that is easier to move might be very useful.
Around my own home, the most useful tool I have is the dust extractor (a Festo anti-static model). Hooked up to a sander with a dust shroud I can sand in the house with virtually no dust, which keeps SWMBO happy.
If you were still hanging wall panels I'd suggest a CCTV to minimise the time spent walking arround the house to check the position of the panel.
Lastly, for sure you have a drill/driver, but do you have an electric screw driver? possibly an auto feed model? Others on this forum have raved about the benefits of a dedicated screewdriver over a drill/driver.
the trouble is no-one makes a electric screw driver for the size I use the most.. (14 inch .. for the panels)
As for help, I get it when it's available but often other things come ahead of working on my project.. when that happens I just do whatever needs doing..
As far as insurance.. I make certain that they carry their own insurance and pay them as sub-contractors. Since they work whatever hours they want it passed the test as far as a laywer was concerned. He was very insistant that I never dictate start/ stop times.
Someone here came up with another legal way to hire casual labor,, hire them thru a temp agency.. I've offered to do that on occasion when looking for someone to guide me into place or hold one end of a beam.. according to the lawyer I'm doing due dilegence when I ask for a copy of their insurance and offer to hire them thru a temp agency.. but as he pointed out,, if someone gets hurt all bets are off, anyone is free to sue anyone at any time over anything.. Just doing things correctly is no warrentee against lawsuits..
... trouble is no-one makes a electric screw driver for the size I use the most.. (14 inch .. for the panels)
So just how big is are those screws? Makita makes an impact wrench rated for 7/8in bolts. I've never used one, but from watching others I understood that the impact action was like that on a hammer drill - you can use it with or without the impact action.
As for waste,
stop by a sawmill sometime.. what you see going into the burn pile will make you cry.. For example for 30 bucks you can get a bundle of offcuts or slab wood that is roughly 4 foot by 4 foot by 8 foot long.
In that bundle there will be at least 5or6 12x 4 foot boards and several 8x 4-5 foot boards, many 6/5/4/2 inch boards all less than 4 feet long.. there will be a few boards less than 4/4 and a few longer boards that taper pretty severely at one end..
If you're into resawing you'll have ten thousand square feet.. some real interesting stuff.
Cherry. black walnut ,Oak,maple, whatever.. $30.00 bring your pick-up
ps. oh and if you want fiddle back maple it's stacked up and drying at $4.00 a bd.ft.
Frenchy,
Now you've gotten yourself into a real mess. For the rest of your life you'll be haunted by every tool on this list that you don't yet have, feeling guilty because you wasted your tool money on presents for your wife, shoes for the kids, or a donation to charity. You'll walk ten miles to work each day, using what would have been gas money to buy a new drill, or planer, or lathe......
Besides all this, if you were to buy every one of them, you'd need a warehouse to store them, and I doubt that the building codes around Lake Minikaka would allow that.
On the positive side, if you actually did own them, you'd have a collection that would turn Norm Abram green with envy. Now wouldn't that be a sight?
Jeff
Now that I think about it, a nice little building of the lakeshore might be nice. Think about something like this. Just sort of blends in with the natural surroundings, and looks so........well.........Minnesotan.
Interesting color choice..
Sorry about the color; it was the best picture of the ugliest building I could find. Then again, if you could do it, it would probably really cut down the size of your property tax bill.
Jeff
don't apologize about the owners sense of color (unless it's your house) if it is, then you need some expert help.. <G>
Frenchy if ya have a lot of doors to set why not pick up a pc door planer.
Darkworks: No Guns No Butter squilla and the bling bling.
Frenchy,
Nah, mine's just grey with white and dark red trim. Boring. BUT, think how nice those colors would be on a nice new timber frame!
Jeff
Hey frenchy I have a idea since you have so much money you could donate some some to the get RonT a bandsaw charity....:>)
Darkworks: No Guns No Butter squilla and the bling bling.
that's the trouble with you liberals, always wanting a hand out <G>
ROFLOL
But its for the children...:>)
Darkworks: No Guns No Butter squilla and the bling bling.
Yeh Ron, it takes a village...
JJeefffff,
wait,..... I gotta ralph!!
too many of them are for the guys who make little things.. you know, out of the size of wood that I throw away as scraps..
You know for a couple of years I've hoped that some enterprising sole would stop by and dumpster dive.. heck he doesn't evan need to dumpster dive I've got much of it stacked up outside..
On the other hand I'm certain that my automotive tools would put me in the elete of the auto tool world, now to get my wood working collection, there..
here's an idea- why don't you buy a <sex toy> and go ... sorry about that, an ugly 3 yr legal battle has temporarily depleted my toy budget and left me just a wee bit jealous! ifn i was you, i'd save a few $ to go to the IWS show in Atlanta this fall(?)
what kinda budget are we working with here? maybe you need to get a new felder catalog- a new tilt shaper perhaps? maybe a sliding saw with their ultracool computerized miter set-up?
as the saying goes- i wish i had your money and you had a feather in your <ear>. we'd both be tickled!
m
Mitch,
I have this timberframe that I'm doing and whatever Woodworking tools that will help me build it (and trim it out) are what interests me. I'm not into furniture or such, maybe after the house is finished my interests will move in that direction.. but for now ..
My budget is whatever I say it is.. But if there is a great power tool and one that will do the job without the whistles and bells, my tendency is to buy the plain one.. that way I can have differant toys. er tools..
whew! she who must be obeyed might have read that..
I'm kinda in no mans land here,, building a house is normally stuff for over at fine home building, however, mortice and tenion joinery is definately for over here..
2x4's doug/fir are the normal wood for over there.. Black walnut is normally a wood for over here...
What's more I start from rough sawn boards green at the mill, and mill and plane them untill they are part of the new house.. so that's definately stuff for over here..
Mitch,
I'm sorry about your troubles but I believe that somehow I've given some the idea that I'm rich.. I only wish I were. I'm willing to believe that I probably make an average living.. certainly not enough to justify my expensive tastes..
I just have been fortunate enough to make the right moves at the right time.. My first house I paid $27,800 for and sold for 100,000 I only spent 7,000 more for this place and the appraiser tells me that when finished it will be worth a couple of million..
Inflation is the prime engine driving this upward spiral but there is some added value in the home I'm building..
I can do this because I'm frugal about money.. I buy new cars and drive them untill they are ready for the dump.. 10/12/ 15 years (1 car I've owned for 35 plus years) I don't buy jet skies or snowmobles nor do I eat out very often..
I planned this home for decades untill the right oppertunity came along and I was able to buy wood at unbelievably cheap prices.. (black walnut at 17 cents a bd.ft. for example)
by buying at these prices rough and green at the sawmill I needed to be able to plane and mill them into the shapes I needed so I bought Grizzley tools.. (I tried Delta but they weren't very good or durable)
I do almost all of the work myself so I need tools to help me do things quickly and neatly.. I suppose that I could hand plane these timbers into shape but the time involved would offend everyone.. My wife because she needs to live in this mess with me, the kids because they have their friends over and the neghbors because after several years of looking at a stack of black walnut 10 feet high it loses the appeall.
you and i actually have a lot in common- while my wife and i are far from poor (especially by global standards) we live pretty simply. our family and friends marvel at the fact we've had only one vehicle- a nice, well maintained toyota 4x4 pickup- for going on 8 yrs (and it has barely 70k miles), but we work at home, have no kids- and absolutely no plans for any, we cook most nights instead of going out, etc.
i was just giving you a little crap- somebody's talking about buying out our business for some decent $$- that would get my toy fund back up to speed.
i'm also a total deal <prostitute>- for example, i have $3000 worth of drawer parts and glides (about a 3'x4'x5' stack) that i paid $400 delivered for.
m
Edited 7/6/2003 4:18:04 PM ET by mitch
I don't sharpen tools!
I have them sharpened.
I've got a complete Tormex sytem collecting dust for the past couple of years..
I don't know why I don't maybe just fear that I'll do something wrong or ruin some of my expensive tools..
Maybe I should buy cheap tools and try on them? But then How will I know if it's the tool or the sharpening that is causing me to underperform.
I bought the Kreg set a while back and used it twice so far on the house
Frenchy, Frenchy, Frenchy,
The Kreg is worth more than your left nut! :o)
The correct answer is above, Multiple Set of Bessey K-Body's.
And how come I didn't here ROS mentioned more than once.
Better yet, a digital camera, I want to see this house. We need pic's....
Enjoy, Roy
Roy,
I have a nice new digital camera sitting right here..
I don't have anything up here to post pictures with (I motion towards my hair)
What I need is some kind soul to stand over me to tell me which buttons to push to post pictures..
What I need is some kind soul to stand over me to tell me which buttons to push to post pictures..
that's what your teenager is good for - - or better yet, just have her do it - have them dump the temporary files, run adaware, de-frag, and arrnge the desktop - they can do 'wallpaper' too. you will have to take the windex to the moniter, they are not good at manual labor - be crefull with the windex and the keyboard, I kinda (thoroughly) messed up the one that came with this computer nd this one doesn't type 'a' very consistntly -
Just pretend the digital camera is just another tool that needs played with. I do not have one yet, soon I hope, I borrowed one from a coworker for a weekend to mess with. The last thing I wanted to do was read a 50 page instruction manual for someone elses camera. Reviewed the menu's and buttons and let her rip.
Thumbs up to figuring it out, I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants to see your house.
Enjoy, Roy
I didn't see a big thickness sander anywhere when I was there.
You NEED one of those. Grizzly makes a couple little ones you might like.
Don't forget to send me that new 12" tablesaw you don't seem to need. Hate to see it cluttering up your shop space like that.<G>
I have 4 tablesaws now, think I'm becoming a collector. That green one would really fit in well. It'd contrast nicely with the grey and rusty ones.<G>
Now Bill,
if you'd been kind you would have helped me with my camera problem. just for that I'll leave the saw right where it's sitting.<G>. I'm certain that before I finish the house I'll wire it up and see if it works..
As for the sander, for some reason they don't excite me..
Maybe if I can find one big enough to do the new door I'm making for the entryway I could get excited..
You never asked me to help with your camera problem. Forgot you had a digital. So far I've been too cheap to get one. I'm sure I could have used it at least as well as you.
Of course, the only ones I've used save the pictures on a floppy disk, so you just pop it out of the camera and into the disk drive. I sure could have gone through the manual with you and attempted though.<G>
As far as the surface sander, I think Grizzly carries them up to 50" or so. A 5 figure price tag won't disuade you will it?
Actually, I have no room for that huge table saw you've got anyway, guess you'll just have to keep it.<G> And, those grapes probably weren't any good anyway.
You realize you already have so many tools that you're just impossible to buy for. . . don't you?
Billy,,
those where wonderful grapes sweet and ripe and delicious..
Aw, we didn't have time to really mess with computer stuff.. besides I'd much rather play with wood than work with a computer..
Tell ya what,, why don't you buy my shaper and then you'll have another reason to come and get some more wood!!! <G>
My suggestion: a drum sander. I don't know what you do in your shop mut since getting the Delta 18" drum sander my panel doors, large glue-up etc. are things of beauty. I'm not that great with belt sander, but my joinery techniques are good. Still, one or two passes through the drum sander with 220 grit paper makes all pieces perfectly flat and exactly the same thickness. I follow up with a few passes with a random orbit sander and am ready for the finish room.
My $0.02.
frenchy, talk is cheap - you'll be proud of me, you old fork lift salesman - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2542363519 we're off @ 6AM to pick up!!
I'm proud of you.. Use hydraulics instead of your back.
I'm certain you'll find a million uses for it, from building to hauling apples.. One of the nice things about forklifts is they really never wear out.. It's always cheaper to rebuild or repair one than buy a new one..
On top of that when you are finished with it, you can probably sell it for more than you paid for it..
Let me know if you're ever at a loss for parts for it.. I've got contacts..
frenchy,
You might want to ask the electricians what tools will make your wiring easier. You seemed to be doing everything with armored cable, which I haven't worked with much, but pros probably use some tools that make using this simpler. Now, if you were using EMT I'd suggest a couple tools. I'm sure there are tools designed to speed things with the armored cable, but haven't used them.
Just general good tools to have on hand for electrical: Some good wire strippers (Klein, Greenlee); a couple different sizes of unibit drillbits.
Aw, you're probably already better equiped then 90% of professional electricians. Some good shaper bits couldn't hurt. Once you get to trim work anyway.
Hey, still thinking about a good way to do your upper window openers. Can think of a dozen ways to do it that wouldn't cost too much <G>, but haven't hit on a way to do it that would look good yet. For this application, the looks of the system will be paramount.
Later
Billy,
I've got most of the wiring tools I'll need.. (by the way the reason for the armor cable is local code).
And for shaper bits. I've got a decent collection of them, but I'm waiting to get the big dog shaper before I buy more.. Know anybody who is looking for a shaper .....cheap?
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