Need help identifying this jointer..
bradleyheathhays
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Eyeing this jointer for sale, auction actually, and I can’t tell if it’s 6 or 8″; I want to say 8. Also, is it worth buying?…only 3/4 HP motor.
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Guessing 6" just based on length and power. It looks like it has been cared for. I would want to run a board.
When I got a 6" jointer it was under a year before I needed to upgrade. If you don't have one and you can get it cheap you'll always be able to sell it cheap.
There's a picture of that model here:
http://vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=10247
It's a 6 inch jointer.
Mike
Save your money and get an 8inch jointer with a 2 Hp motor.
Looks like my first jointer an old Rockwell/Delta which left a lot to be desired and it took me awhile to realize the value of a jointer IF it was wide enough, 8" minimum 12" preferred, and long tables, 70-72" or longer.
This one is 6" which along with the short infeed and outfeed tables and ¾ hp makes it of little value, unless your focus is on small stock for boxes, cutting boards or similar projects.
I agree the wider the better, for me 16" is a minimum. With that said, if the choice is 6" or nothing then get the small jointer, it is far better than nothing.
I would also advise inspecting, particularly to check the tables with a straight edge. It's easy to get burned at an auction, and if you end up with a turkey you are on your own.
I'm OK with nothing. Never owned a jointer. And I can't see any value in a 6 or 8 inch. I get by just fine without one.
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I oscillate personally.
Most of the time I totally hate the jointer, and for edge-jointing the TS is king, but sometimes it is a great little tool, especially for slightly cupped boards.
That having been said, I can do almost any surface flattening with the planer or at a pinch the drum sander...
For edge jointing the jointer must be... Emporer? The tool is named for what it does and leaves no kingmarks in the edge. A planer can flatten both sides of a board with some extra effort to help keep feed rollers from working against you, same as a drum sander...but that extra effort is the classic Time vs money question.
I think it is pretty clear Bradley is looking to up his game. If he does not have a 6" jointer what are the odds that he has both a planer and a drum sander?
That ability to oscillate is a luxury I have as well, suggesting 2 machines that are multiples of the spend to get that jointer / boat anchor may not help him with his current connundrum.
I was not going to respond to this, but every time the word jointer is mentioned on this site you chime in with the same response (John_C2). If I am supposed to be impressed with the fact that you don't use a jointer, I am not. If there is some value in your response that might be useful to the original post, I fail to see that as well.
Don't get me wrong, there are alternatives to the machine.
So perhaps you could enlighten the rest of us, why a jointer is a useless and unnecessary piece of equipment.
Huh?
The reply was to John_c2 not you. It is confusing
Impress? Why on earth would I try to impress anyone.
There seems to be this assumption that you can't make furniture without a jointer. It's on every list of must have tools for new woodworkers.
But they aren't necessary. Not even a tiny bit. You can do anything without one. You can actually do a lot more without one, and save yourself the space and money.
That's all. Woodworking is full of a lot of myths. Needing a power jointer is one of them.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion and there is some truth in what you say, but the problem is you do come across as somewhat condescending in the way you continuously mention your distain for jointers when ever it comes up. Not everyone has the luxury of the time or tools and skills needed to flatten and joint boards by hand or maybe they don't want to deal with the jigs and sleds needed to use other machines to accomplish the tasks best done by a jointer. Is it possible you don't see the value in a jointer because you've never owned a quality wide, long bed jointer? I know my first exposure to a jointer, one very much like the one in this OP left me completely underwhelmed and it wasn't until I used a wide 12" long bed jointer that I really understood their place in a shop, especially one that is used to make money.
"Impress? Why on earth would I try to impress anyone.
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Sorry for that, just trying to make sense of your response.
"There seems to be this assumption that you can't make furniture without a jointer. It's on every list of must have tools for new woodworkers."
Really? I have missed seeing all these lists somehow.
"But they aren't necessary. Not even a tiny bit. You can do anything without one. You can actually do a lot more without one, and save yourself the space and money."
This is beyond naïve and inaccurate, but thanks for debunking another "woodworking myth"
Were you traumatized somehow at an early age by a jointer? Just asking...
It takes no extra time to get boards flat and square without a jointer. None. I use no special jigs, sleds, or anything. I have a tablesaw with just a fence, a thickness planer, Dewalt lunchbox, without a sled or anything, and very occasionally a jack plane. That's it.
I donthave room for a 6 inch jointer, never mind a 12 or 16 inch.
It's not hard, not even a tiny bit. And yes, most newbies have been convinced they need a jointer. Many think it's more necessary than a thickness planer. I can't even fathom that line of thinking.
I'll continue to chip in my 2 cents on the jointer issue. Since it offends you guys, you don't need to bother reading it when I do.
Thanks for the advice everybody. If it were 8" I'd think more about it but as there are better used 6" options out there I'll just let this one go. I like how well built it looks though.
Come back and tell us what it goes for at auction?
It's name is Frank. You are welcome.
Over the last 45 0r more years i have been fortunate to have studied with,visited,been befriended by ,and generally been with many professional woodworkers. I have been in shops in Canada,US,England,Australia,Italy and other places.In no shop of a PROFESSIONAL woodworker,many of whom grace the pages of our publication,did I note the absence 0f a jointer.This is also true of the best teaching institutions I have visited.
That does not mean that you can’t make due without one .Many cant spend the money on one.Having said that,6 months ago I made 5 dressers for family members.The smallest had 6 drawers ,the largest ten.I joined all the drawer fronts in one day and was able to plane them the next day.Fooling around with a plainer to join all those boards would mean I would still be at it today.Add to that all the poplar for the runners would represent a nightmare.
If you can afford on get one!!!
Key word here "PROFESSIONAL". Thank you.
I'm mid-60's and haven't used a jointer since high school shop class (scared the crap out of me) until I bought one a year ago (6"). I love it. I have a large hand plane collection and prefer to edge joint with those but I've always sucked at trying to flatten a board with a plane.
A friend gave me some exotic wood cut-offs, many warped, and I would never be able to flatten them without a power jointer. I plan to make some special boxes with the wood I would never be able to use otherwise.
Like most I have a small shop and never wanted to dedicate room to a jointer or thickness planner but I'm glad I finally did. For my work I find the 6" jointer is fine.
Right now the price seems to have stabilized at $152 after a lot of bidding. My bid technique usually is to wait til the last minute, and I thought lots of other people did that too. Evidently that isn't the case with these kind of auctions. Just getting to know them so we'll see.
John_C2 "I have a tablesaw with just a fence, a thickness planer, Dewalt lunchbox". John, can you elaborate on that? I have no idea what that means. What is a lunchbox and how does that flatten a board? Thanks.
Lunchbox planer is just the nickname here for a portable thickness planer, usually in the 12-13 inch range. I think mine is the Dewalt 733.
BTW, I have a lot of reclaimed wood, much less than 6" in width and waiting for a project. Now that I have a power jointer and a thickness planer I've expanded my opportunities by a hundred fold because I can now design projects with dimensions upfront, not relying on final sizing from my hand planes or an afternoon of shaving. I love my hand planes and they are my go-to for fun but owning a power jointer and thickness planer has opened up my world in a very good way. Do not be afraid. And please don't ever wear a neck tie like my shop class teacher. Over the jointer. Don't do that.
The jointer ended up selling at a little over $200
I`m ok open collar. Never owned a tie. And I can't see any value in a necktie or a bowtie. I get by just fine without one.
Collars? That's pretty fancy.
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IMO $200 is a high for that machine w/o being able to run it, and probably a fair price if perfectly functional. Smart move to pass on it.
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