I was just purusing the Grizzly website to look at their new riving knife equiped cabinet saw and I came across a NEW slider! “G0623X 10″ Sliding Tablesaw”
Has anyone seen or heard anything about this machine? It looks really cool. I do wonder if it’ll fit in my garage (LOL) Did any of you who went to Las Vegas see this machine? I was initially looking at a Hammer or MiniMax but with the cost of my home remodel and new garage workshop…. the price of a Euro slider is getting out of reach for me.
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J-man, what's the model number of the riving-knife saw? I'm not picking it out in a quick scan of the cabinet saws. Thanks!
forestgirl,
try G0623X http://grizzly.com/products/G0623X
Regards,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
I saw that slider, Bob. Am looking for the riving-knife cabinet saw. Am starting to consider upgrading my saw this fall, but want a riving knife and no-hassle conversion to dados, etc.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
http://www.grizzly.com/products/G0651`
I was looking at the 12" and saw this new 10" that has the knife. If my 1023 was older, I would consider this saw. Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
Thanks, bones. There was a 1023 with 50" fence that showed up on Craig's list last week, only ~$900, but I just can't "go back" after using a quick-release splitter. Can't afford the cabinet saw linked, but perhaps the Steel City hybrid will have what I want. Fall release, methinks.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
$900, is not too bad, but thats real close to brand new. For me, I use the microjig, which does and excellent job, and it gives me the ability to adjust where the pressure on the stock should be applied. I tend to snap the plug in that pushes a couple thousands to the fence side for a little resistance as I push the stock through. If I need dado's pop it out and when done, snap it back in. If I was getting new, the riving knife would be a requirement, and I love the outfeed table already present, although I have by workbench doubling as that, so I would have to give up a little shop space. Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
SawStop.
"SawStop" Yep, 2 months ago, that was my stance: SawStop or nothing. But my old Jet saw is giving me some grief that's adding significant time to completing some projects. And, I've got some possible funding source. We'll see what happens.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
I had considered a Sawstop, but if I want to add an accessory like the Jessem sliding table, it adds up to what a Euro Saw like a Hammer K3 would cost. The Jessem is nice, but its not as nice as a true integrated sliding table with the blade close to slider.The Grizzly seems to have it all. Large crosscut capacity, ability to use my existing blades, a riving knife, and its priced nicely considering what you are getting. The only exception is probably the dado function. But I'm starting to think that I can live without that.If all I wanted was a really good table saw with a riving knife, the Powermatic PM2000 looks really nice. I saw one with a router table built in the other day. Pretty nice.
From the add it looks like the Grizz has some built-in DC as well.
I have a feeling that some day we'll look back on SawStop and thank them for yanking the chain of the rest of the manufacturers?
Just another editorial from the peanut gallery.
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Edited 8/20/2007 7:51 pm ET by KiddervilleAcres
Edited 8/20/2007 7:52 pm ET by KiddervilleAcres
Bob, You make a good point.... I was going to say that we owe it to the Euro saws, but I think that I first saw the riving knife on the SawStop and only then realized its value. I've had a Biesemeyer splitter for years but the knife on the SawStop is done right.
I believe that the Grizz handles Dado blades. You might have to remove the wooden insert, but I think that's why it's there.
I was kind of hoping that, but I didn't see dado as a feature. On Euro saws, those seem to be the throat plate for the blade.
Ray,
On a previous thread discussing these Euro-style saws, Lataxe mentioned that dados were 'outlawed' in Europe, they use groovers(?) instead. So, maybe the Griz would accept one of them thar styles of saw blades?
Just a thought that popped into my head and bounced of the walls a bit.
Chris.
On a previous thread discussing these Euro-style saws, Lataxe mentioned that dados were 'outlawed' in Europe, they use groovers(?) instead.
Dado heads aren't quite outlawed here, but we're required to guard them to the same standards as ordinary blades - difficult. Also European (safety) practice is to use routers or spindle moulders (shapers) to work rebates and routers or radial arm saws (with dado heads) to work cross housings (dado grooves). The fact that plywood is expensive here relative to MDF or chipboard and that those materials are readily jointed using a variety of readily available methods (biscuits, carcass screws, pocket hole screws, Domino, Duo Dowler, etc) means that the ability to cut dados on a table saw is somewhat less of an issue
Scrit
Scrit,
Thanks for setting me straight. I didn't go back to research the post, I went by memory (not always the best :-] ) of what the fine gentleman Lataxe wrote. What is a 'groover' anyway, never seen or heard of that kind of critter.
Have a good day over there on your side of the rock,
Chris.
What is a 'groover' anyway, never seen or heard of that kind of critter.
Kity, Scheppach (and I believe Felder) all make variable groovers for use on table saws. deWalt (in Europe) make a pair of what they call "safety dado heads" for use on their 10 and 12in radial arm saws, which are ostensibly the same sort of devices. Instead of being a stacked saw set with two outer blades and 2- or 4-tooth rakers in the middle the variable groover/safety dado heads are 2-part interlocking cutterblocks which are shimmed to set the width of cut. In fact they are very similar in design to the variable groover/rebate blocks commonly used on spindle moulders (see http://www.axminster.co.uk/product-Omas-Replaceable-Tip-Adjustable-Groovers-and-Tenoners-20344.htm for example of spindle moulder equivalent)
Scrit
I would suggest that whoever gets close enough to actually ordering one contact Grizzly and ask them. I did see the saw at AWFS and examined it (among a number of others) and I think I remember the dado capability but my memory is not perfect and all Euro saws will not accept Dado blades, which are outlawed in Europe (the only exceptions that I know of are one or two manufacturers who make a special version for US)I was pretty excited when I looked at the saw last month. I thought riving knife, 5 hp, scoring blade, euro-style sliding table, small footprint, $2700 -- what's not to like? When you compare this to Saw Stop or Euros like Felder/Hammer, Minimax or even Rojek, of course the Grizzly has an aluminum table which is quite small and the construction does not appear to be as heavy duty, but it also less than half the cost. I'm seriously thinking about it.
I assume you mean its the sliding tabIe that's aluminum on the Grizzly. I haven't taken a close look at the Hammer K3 or Mini Max slider. But on their websites, the sliders look like they too are aluminum. Is this not the case?
Almost all modern sliding tables are aluminium - take a look at the top industrial saws like Altendorf, Panhans and Martin and you'll see what I mean. A 3.2 metre cast-iron slider would be impossible to push all day long. Smaller sliders follow the practice of the larger ones, from which they derive their designs
Scrit
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