—I’m considering buying Franklin Int’l.’s new HiPURformer 1341 Polyurethane Hot-melt Adhesive kit. Anyone actually used this baby yet???
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I've used it for about a year. There are a couple of problems.
If you don't use the whole $8 tube then it will spoil - use within 4 weeks according to the literature.
I've had a fair amount of trouble getting it out of the gun. I called Franklin and they said some early tubes had problems releasing the check valve built into the adhesive tubes. They sent me some new ones which I think were better. I will admit to trying to use old half-used tubes and the problem is that they cure inside the tube and clog.
Mine also seems to need to warm up for a few minutes more than when the light turns from red to green. Its really aggravating when you gun a bit of adhesive on the assembly and then you cant apply it to the rest of the assembly because it won't come out.
My other problem is that I'm frequently trying to adhere long pieces and you have to get to it before it cools. You do have to clamp everything, too, so you need to be ready, even if it's you and a buddy using hand pressure for clamping (which I've done with good results) Like any adhesive except contact, it makes it stuff slippery, too. You can end up with a thick glueline if you are too slow or your pressure is too light.
In general, for gluing wood, I use regular titebond or elmer's yellow contractor grade glue (which advertised fast set times). You can clamp for as little as 10 minutes, and the open time is much more reasonable.
What do you intend to glue with it?
Why do you need that kind of quick grip? Hotmelt is basically c r a p .
If you need a really fast bonding (8-20 sec) and quicky curing (20-60 seconds) try Fastcap glues, 2P-10, which is just awesome. We did a demonstration on it the other day, and after 30 seconds, end grain to end grain, the bond was stronger than the wood itself. We took a piece of end grained glued wood, and whacked it across a piece of concrete. The wood broke about 2" above the glue line, and the bond was still rock hard.
Pricey, but nice stuff.
Regards,
Boris
"Sir, I may be drunk, but you're crazy, and I'll be sober tomorrow" -- WC Fields, "Its a Gift" 1934
---Thanks, Boris. I checked out their website and saw their 2P-10 kit. Tomorrow(Monday) morning I'll call Louis & Co. for prices. They really look amazing! I can think of a gazillion uses in woodworking for such a fast-acting and quality adhesive. When U say all glue guns are crap, do you mean trying to use a "normal" crafts glue gun for something it was not intended for, or are you including from experience the fairly new (to me,at least--I 1st saw it advertised last year in FWW...) Franklin Polyurethane "Hi-Purformer Advanced Bonding system" ?????
BTW, I am a huge fan of the normal hot melt glue guns in my work (finish carpentry...). I use them a lot for temporarily adhering things like templates or a host of other things...
I am very curious about this new "glue gun".......
--- Thanks for your feedback!
I can think of so many times I would love to have a good quality, long-lasting, quality, super-fast bond when working with wood. Like this job I have this week--clear pine baseboard with matching wood outside bullnose pieces. I could biscuit each outside corner, apply the quick adhesive to each side of the bullnose and the pre-cut adjoining pieces, apply quick pressure and be done with it!!
I used the Franklin hot poly glue on a project about 1 month ago. It worked just fine gluing up strips of cocabolo, birdseye maple, and ebony. My only complaint is that the glue is expensive per linear foot of glued material, and you have to work really. really fast. We had a project that had to be done in two days & didn't have time to use standard glues.
We glued up each strip of wood and clamped the strip for 10 minutes. Each total glue-up had 5 separate strips of wood. We finished the first glue-up in about 1 hour and let it sit while we made the second "board." We then ran the first board through a planer to surface it to the final dimension. We then did the same to the second board which had a cure time of about 30 minutes after the total glue-up.
I thought the glue system worked really well. I haven't tried it on anything else since then. I'll probably use it more on small things I have to make fast like a jig. The stuff seemed to hold securely if you clamped it for a 10 minute cure period.
I had no problems with the glue gun or glue cartridges. You do need to pull the plunger out of the cartridge while it is still hot if you want to take the cartridge out of the gun when it has cooled. Otherwise you will glue the plunger into the gun - it will release when the gun is heated the next time.
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