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1. 
   DCarr10760 | Oct 08, 2005 06:49pm | #1

   Hi Will,

   ECE does, they are available at lots of places, but may not have the plough in stock but here's a place that carries it.

   http://www.tools-for-woodworking.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=588

   They're not ashamed to charge a pretty penny for it (or 34,900 pennies).  But other than having one made for you by Clark & Williams, (who do wonderful work) BTW there aren't a whole lot of options.

   Good Luck!

   David Carroll

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   malex | Oct 08, 2005 07:32pm | #2

   You may want to try Knight Toolworks.

   http://www.knight-toolworks.com/speciality.htm#plow

   I have a Knight coffin smoother and it works fantastic.  Good luck in your search.

   Mark

3. 
   kesac | Oct 08, 2005 10:06pm | #3

   Veritas did make a gadget that held a chisel in place to work as a plow plane.  I have never seen one used in real life, and don't remember if it is still in their catalog, but that might do what you want. 

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   tailsorpins | Oct 09, 2005 01:35am | #4

   Why would you not consider resurrecting a Stanley 45 or 55?  You might find a new-old stock Record 045.  Or you can pick up an ivory tipped, Ohio Tool plow on Ebay, item (6214974755), with just the horn of the tote broken off!  Might have reached $500 by now.  The plow irons show up quite often, in sets there.  There have been several rosewood plows listed lately, as well.  Good luck.

   John in Texas

    

5. 
   dirtstirrer | Oct 09, 2005 07:11am | #5

   Clifton makes one don't they?  Copy of the 45 for 10x the money.

    

   Steve
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   polarsea1 | Oct 09, 2005 08:08am | #6

   You can get a Stanley No. 50 for not much money and they are fairly simple tools as   opposed to a 45 or 55.  A complete one with 17 cutters should run ~75.

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   dirtstirrer | Oct 09, 2005 08:27am | #7

   You're correct with the 55, but I don't think the 50 is any more simple then the 45.  The 55 is complicated to compensate for the different skate heights required to adjust to the more complicated cutter profiles.  A 45 uses very simple cutter profiles so the skates have one depth.  I've always thought the 46 with the squewed cutter is a good idea.

    Steve

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   polarsea1 | Oct 09, 2005 10:24am | #8

   Hi Dirtstirrer,

   Probably no easier to use but simpler by virtue of having less parts. Hopefully I made my point about a less expensive alternative to the beautiful ECE plough plane. Here's a photo I took of two of my planes. The big dusty one is a 45 the small one is an English Stanley No. 50.

   Best

   http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b9/polarsea1/45and50003.jpg

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   dirtstirrer | Oct 09, 2005 05:36pm | #9

   Nice planes, your 45 looks very complete, nice example it looks like.  Nice little 50 as well.  Do you collect Stanley stuff?  David Heckel has a book on 45's that pretty much the definitive 45 reference.  If you don't have it allready, I sure recommend it.  I've got a 55 and a 45 in the case here by the computer, and another six or seven in the shop.  Guess I'm an accumulator.

   Have a good day,

    Steve

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   philip | Oct 10, 2005 11:03am | #11

   Hey Steve, I have made reference to my Fleet of Working Baileys/Records (old, but pristine)in the past-now you are saying you have a#55 and a#45 in the house and another 6 or 7 in the workshop???
   Good God, man , is there anything we can do to help you?Philip Marcou

3. 
   dirtstirrer | Oct 10, 2005 04:02pm | #12

   HeHe, yep, and my lovely wife has finally given up her crusade to keep them in the shop.  I knew I could outlast her!  Now if I could only take over the mantle.....maybe you guys could tell her how good planes actually look, how tasteful, how refined, how elegant, etc.   Of course, if she gets wind of this plan, all is lost.  Top Secret stuff here.

    Steve

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   WillGraham | Oct 16, 2005 04:41pm | #16

   Do you havew a web site for them, all I could find was retailers

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   dirtstirrer | Oct 16, 2005 04:53pm | #17

   You know, I've never seen a sight for them?!  I don't think Cliftons are worth the $'s, so I must admit I've never really looked.  Old Stanley's are cheaper and work exactly the same. 

    Steve

6. 
   jdpeck | Oct 10, 2005 01:42am | #10

   Stanley shows a plough plane on its web site.  Go to:

   http://www.stanleytools.com/default.asp? CATEGORY=PLANES&TYPE=PRODUCT&PARTNUMBER=12-052&SDesc=10+Blade+Plough+Combination+Plane

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   WillGraham | Oct 11, 2005 12:11am | #13

   Thanks for all the help<!----><!----><!---->

   I did look at the German plow plane by ECE, but have had some bad experience ordering stuff sight unseen. Another issue is until its in your hands working wood You don't know if its the right tool for you. I think <!----><!----><!---->Lee<!----> <!---->Valley<!----><!----> once carried this plane but they have dropped it a few years ago. <!----><!---->

   I looked at the 12-052 - 10 Blade Plough Combination Plane on the website, looks OK but has anyone used it? Its got a junk look to it.<!----><!---->

   As for older (used) I have not educated myself enough to know the difference between junk and treasure.  Treasure is something I can use. Junk is something I have enough of already.<!----><!---->

   I going to look into the e-bay thing.<!----><!---->

    

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   robert1 | Oct 11, 2005 06:11am | #14

   I own the Stanley 12-250 and use it on occasion. I like my Stanley 45 a lot better. Both work, but the 45 is a more substantial tool.

   http://www.stanleytools.com/default.asp?CATEGORY=PLANES&TYPE=PRODUCT&PARTNUMBER=12-250&SDesc=18+Blade+Plough+Combination+Plane

7. 
   lwilliams | Oct 11, 2005 06:46am | #15

   I'm Larry Williams from Clark & Williams. We do make a replica of a CA.1760 a plow plane. You can find some information about the first one we made here.

   View Image

   And that's perhaps more commercial as we should get here.

8. 
   WillGraham | Nov 19, 2005 07:37pm | #18

   Thanks for all the input.

   Timing is everything. When I started this search I was thinking about buying a new plow plane.  During the process I picked up the December FWW and read the article on "Buying old Tools".  The article provided websites, one I checked out was http://www.oldtools.comclubs lead to a local club that had a meeting last weekend. Several tables had items for sale, including a Stanley 45 in a wood box.

   I had checked out all the online info I could find on the 45, and had a good idea what to look for.  The plane I found had been used a lot, covered with gunk and some rust.  I picked it up for about $110 US.  I went strait home and cleaned it up and sharpened a couple of blades. After reading an up on how to assemble and use it, I put it to work.  I love it. I plowed a grove in walnut that was almost as good I get from my router table. With practice I am sure I can do even better.

   I may have paid a little too much compared to ebay prices. But I knew exactly what I was getting, and had the "Touch and Feel" experience before I paid.

   Again, thanks for all the input.  I would love to have gotten a new wooden plane from from one of the two companies that make them, but I am happy with my new/ Old Plane.

   I think it needs a new box though.