The new home of Sequim Tool. I will get out of the garage at last. Work is to start in the morning.
The shop will be 1132 sqft, L shaped 22 by 22 in and front and 18 by 36 in back. Machine tool in front and woodworking in the back. The photo is the spot where I going to put it, in the photo your looking west. 4″ slab of concret with a lot of rebar and 6″ pvc pipe coming up out of the floor at the table saw for dust collector, I have been looking at the 3 hp Grizzly cyclone.
If like I will update the work eack week with photos.
Edited 9/21/2007 1:05 am by Sequim Tool
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Permit me to address your good self as Sequim.
Very nice green green surroundings. I've dreaming of having both, the shop and the green. I hope you are not cutting down the trees.
I like to see the progress. Update us with photos, when you have time.
Thanks
Masrol
yes all the trees stay, I have only 1 1/4 acre the trees you see are in my neighbors yard. that his shop building in the background it's 40' by 40'
Im John
It'll be interesting to see your progress pics, but do us all a favor and re-size your pics to something like 480x640 pixels before posting so they will fit on page and download quickly.
Will do
The digger started work to day cleaned off the grass and dug the dry well 5.4Yd
10' by 5' by 4' deep
Photos of the 8000lb digger. The excavating contractor is costing $1500.
Sequim,
If ya need any help, just let me know!
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Edited 8/3/2007 1:47 pm ET by KiddervilleAcres
All the digging is done now forming up and backfilling with reject sand over 6mil vapor barrier. For forms I using the new Fab-Foot from Fab-Form.com The photo is the Electrical service feeder, 200 amp 4/0-4/0-2/0 wire
Dear John,
I enjoy following the work progress, as if they doing for me.
Thanks for the update.
Masrol
Today is rebar day. $557. of rebar. The reject sand back fill was 54ton of sand $421. The total cost for the concrete job look like it will come in at $9800. Photos of the reject sand being shot in from a agracat truck.
Concrete work now complete. We backfilled around the slab too. Next weekend I will start the framing. The concrete work was done by SCC Concrete 360-461-4242 out of Port Angeles, Washington. The work look good. see the photos
Sequim,
What are the PVC pipes for?
Regards,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
The big 6" pipe is for the dust collector and next to it is for power at my table saw. On the other side of the shop I have a pipe for power at my workbench. I hate cords all over the floor and dust pipe coming down from overhead looks bad and can get in the way too.
Sequim,
Thanks, kinda thought that was the case.
When I laid down the floor for my woodshop (2nd floor in an OLD farmhouse) then floor was out by nearly 6"! I had to saw 2x6x12's on the diagonal from end to end to get it close. This left me with a considerable amount of space, good for the electrical at least.
Your new shop looks like it will be great. I notice that it is L shaped. Any thoughts as to layout?
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
The L shape just fit best for the lot. I putting machine tools in the front it's 22' by 22' and the back for woodworking it's 18' by 36'. I like making woodworking tools. I'm a retired machinist so I need a place for both woodwork and machine work.
John
My mouth is watering.
great idea in kepping us updated. Do us a favor, start a blog, it is a lot easier to follow.http://www.gedaliahblumfurniture.com
Got the lumber today about $1800. and walls are going up.
Edited 8/17/2007 8:59 pm by Sequim Tool
where are the hold down bolts in the concrete?
I predrilled the mudsill 12" from the end and every 6' then with the wall up I drill the concrete with a rotohammer. Blowing the hole out with air. I drive in a Simpson Strong-Tie Titen HD and a 3" by 3" washer with my air impact wrench. you can look it up on http://www.simpsonanchors.com It's Drill, Drive, Done
you should start a blog and document all the steps in the process.
This is cool! Thanks for sharing the ongoing project.Cheers,Peter
Today I put up a 22' wall. I made up a wall jack with a boat trailer winch, it cranked it right up, I stopped every 12" to 18" blocking the wall, then moved the jack closer, then up some more. It worked.
All the walls are up, the big 3 1/4" by 15"- 18' long beam is up too. Next the top plate and sheeting 7/16" OSB. I started out taking a 1/2 hour break every 2 hours now I take a 2 hour break ever 1/2 hour of work Looking out the window you see the Olympics past the trees and out the front it's MT Baker
Trusses come on the 14th. so I can take my time on the sheeting
John
JohnI have really enjoyed your posts and look forward to continued updates. You are filling a void since Matthew Teague quit his shop blog. Thanks. Tom"Notice that at no time do my fingers leave my hand"
Who's your "weather contractor"? You've got beautiful weather for western Washington. It looks like it may hold out until you get a roof on.
Yes it will hold, my house is under a blue hole in the sky. We only get 12" to 15" of rain a year. The Dungeness River is about 1000 yard to the west with good Coho fishing to.
To day nailed the top plate down and paid for the trusses $2345. Hope to get them in a week or so. Sheeting next.
Got all the sheeting up. Trusses next and I found a framer to help me roll up the trusses and sheet the roof. He only wants $25 an hr. He better be fast or the budget will bust.
Ah yes ! The thinking chairs. I had them too.Work Safe, Count to 10 when your done for the day !!
Bruce S.
Returned to work after a week's leave.
The work progress pace looks OK. To my curiosity, hope you don't mind asking why build the wall from all lumber. Is lumber cheaper than bricks?
In my country lumber is more expensive than bricks. Some more, termites "work" without sleeping. I had replaced bathroom door frame twice in 10 years.
Masrol
Yes. In North West Washington state we have trees, lots of trees, a forest. Saw mills, Plywood mills, Cedar mills, Paper Mills, Soft wood and Hardwood mills too. But most of the wood I used was milled in O' Canada witch is just across the Strait of Juan De Fuca. I will be going to the cedar mill to get my trim lumber. I will post some photos of Frank Mill.
John
Dear John,
Thanks for your answers. Sorry for late reply - (due to world time difference)
Looking forward to seeing next picture of the work in progress and the mill too.
The latest news I read, these days weather is not good in America (not sure which part). Is your area affected?
Anyway, wish you all the best.
Masrol
Been lookin' at you progress. Hell, it's bigger than my house!
Really, I really hope all is as you expect it will be and more and fer' along time to come!
Can I move in there with my stuff? I'm use to workin' in a small corner! LOL..
Hi WG,
You are still awake at this time. Why not post you "small corner". I just love seeing other people work place.
If I post mine, sure you will be LOL ....or may brake into tears.
Masrol
Masrol,
I bet I gotcha beat! I have to chase the bats outa mine before I can work.
The chickens leave a mess on the bench each night and I have to empty the buckets each morning from all the leaks in the roof!
Regards,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Bob,
I will try to snap a few shots on my "woodworking area" by next week. But cannot say for sure cos I'm not used to using digital camera, especially the up-loading procedures. If I'm through we will see how miserable mine is.
May God bless all members of this knot forum and FWN staff.
Masrol
Hey Bob, I'm back I've been hanging out in breaktime with the cool people since I've been building the new shop. So how ya doing? I have many Q's for you
-Lou
To day I went to Frank Lemcke's Sawmill in Sequim, WA. Pick up the red cedar for my trim and fascia 5/4" by 6" red cedar. The photos are of my wood being cut. I got 250 bdft of red cedar at $1.95, must of it is clear. At the lumber yard it cost about $2.35 a foot but it's junk. Frank cuts doug fir, red cedar, oak and western maple. He has lot's of log or will cut yours His # is 360-460-4297 or 360-683-7707
Sequim, How thick did you poor your slab?
Thanks, Lou
It's 4". It took 34 yard for the 1132 sqft and under it is 54 ton of reject sand. I used 5 1/2 sack with #3 rebar spaced in a 24" grid and 3 - #4 rebar in the edges. The hole job cost about $11000.
John
Hi John,
It has been a week since I read your last post.
Please do update us with the progress.
Thanks.
Masrol
Well today I'm back to work. Got the back trusses rolled out and the hip too. this set was to be 7.31/12 pitch and the hip a 6/12 to match the front 6/12 pitch but the hip was made 7.31/12 not 6/12 and it's all nailed up. So the front 22' 6/12 are going back and I get new ones. I had wanted the ridges to be at the same height. The back set is 18' by 36' and the front being 22'by 22'. One good thing the truss co. will make it right. And to day the fog rolled in then burned off at noon. good working temp but wet with dew, fall is coming fast.
John
Day 2 of truss rolling. I got the replacement 22' 7.312/12 pitch trusses at about 10.30 am and by 2.30 pm we had them all in place. Total labor cost for the truss work $600.
That's 2 men @ $25. each for 12 hours = $600.
About 8 more hours for the overframing and sheeting
Edited 9/13/2007 9:11 pm by Sequim Tool
Edited 9/14/2007 1:01 am by Sequim Tool
Truss photos
All the framing is now done and the roofing sheeting is on, time for the asphalt shingles, but we got some rain to day, if it keeps up I'l start the wiring and I have more fascia to put up.
Is this posting interesting to you or out of place, fine home building stuff.
John
Edited 9/16/2007 8:58 pm by Sequim Tool
I enjoy the posts very much. I hope to build my own shop some day, so I'm making notes as you go. Thanks. Tom"Notice that at no time do my fingers leave my hand"
Thanks Tom, I think I will update the epic achievements every Sunday only.
John
Sequim,
Don't stop.
It's a woodshop; we're all interested in how you make out with it. Everyone in here always wants to learn about new ideas.
Regards,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
I enjoy the posts. Seeing shops and benches and jigs and all of that kind of stuff is informative (to me, at least)--it's information that I can put to use directly. Seeing beautiful furniture and magnificent hand tools is also enjoyable and inspirational, but doesn't have the same amount of day-to-day, I-can-do-something-like-that-in-my-shop kind of practicality.
But...I can't take it anymore; it's "sheathing," not "sheeting."
There. I said it. Sorry. ;)
-Steve
I can't help it you see I'm a Machinist. And from the dictionary, Sheeting, 1. act of covering
But thank you
John
John
As I said before (my very early post to you) I follow the work progress with interest as if it is my woodshop. Since I cannot own one for now at least, watching, reading and viewing others' woodshop may revive my dream of having one.
Keep going John.
Thanks
Masrol
always seemed to me that "sheeting" was slang, for those too cool for "sheathing". It's more practical than correct, but a term that doesn't cause any confusion. Not so for other carpenter generalities: "top plate" (which one?), "eaves" (when it's a rake), "facia" (read end rafter), "wow" (bow or crook), anyway . . .
Well I see I must keep this mess going
Today I got the roofing, roof top delivery is the only way to go. 20 sq. $1003.96 + all the 15# felt, valley metal, corvent ridgevent, roofing nails, ice & water guard felt, it add up to $1800. I got 2 kids to nail it down for $35. per sq. A sq is 100 sqft
More photos of the trusses and the roofing on top
The roofer I had to do the job is a no show. I will have to start all over looking for some one. His bid was $35 per sq. the only other bid was $60.
I did get some work done, I made up the big doors, 2" x 4" frame with 1/2" ply on both sides and filled with R-13 insulation. they swing real nice. I got the Tyvek House Wrap on too it was hard as the wind was kicking up. not a job for just one old man.
To day before the Sea Chickens played and won over the Bengals. I put up the windows now I need to clean them. Hope to get a roofer to started soon.
The roofing is on. I returned the unused material and took all the scrap to the dump.
So to recap the roofing job cost labor cost was $55. per sq. ,a sq is 100 sqft, and we used 17 2/3 sq. it took 3 roofers about 9hr to do the job. Material cost, less the returns of unused stuff, was about $1500. Total job $2500.
The roofer was Mike Schmitt of OTM Service Co. Mike did a very good job for me. If you need a roof call him @ 360-417-0124
A lot of clean up to do, window to wash. Then electrical next. I use the Code Check by Taunton Press. and Wiring Simplified 40th edition. for all the how to.
John
Edited 9/27/2007 12:32 pm by Sequim Tool
The rain held off so I kept working out side putting up some siding on the front. It's red cedar preprimed. I had forty 16' and 14' and a lot of 4' left over from the house so I will put them in the front. T1-11 19/32 ply for the rest.
John
John,
Looking great man! Can't wait to see what you're gonna do with the inside.
You should be proud of it.
Regards,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
John, I might have missed this in your previous posts, but did you design it yourself or hire an architect? Curious as to your thoughts either way.
Steve
Edited 9/30/2007 1:00 pm by dirtstirrer
I did it my self. I have some books How to Design & build Your Own House, Building Construction Illustrated and a IRC 2003 code book. The Truss Co will do the truss design you only have to give them the pitch you want. If you need help take your prints to the building dept and when you get your print back they will be covered in red with changes. It rain to day so before the game I worked inside pulling some wire.
John
John,
Thank you for sharing your progress. I'm down here in North Central Texas. Where are you? The cold winters will have a hard time getting passed those well insulated doors!!
Your pricing costs seem very fair. I was wondering what the size of the workshop is, roof pitch, concrete slab cost, and generally what the shop will cost you out of pocket?
It sounds like you're a lot like me...doing everything you can with your own labor to save dollars.
Thanks again for sharing,
Bill
I'm in Sequim Washington it not the end of the earth but you can see it from here.
The doors are on the east side and in Sequim the wind never comes from the east.
The shop is 1132 sqft It's L shaped 22' by 22' in the front and 18' by 36' in back. the roof pitch is 7.31/12 I wanted 6/12 but got 7.31/12. the slab cost about $10,000. I'm doing all the work but the slab and roofing and had 2 good framers help with rolling the trusses.
The total cost I hope to be under $30,000. as it's all she will let me have.
John
as it's all she will let me have.Gee You forgot to bring her Flowers and make her a New Kitchen!
She got the new house and kitchen first, then she let me have my $ for the shop.
John
I guess She out smarted ya'!
Getting more siding up, all the lower full sheets are on and gable end and the 1/4 sheets next. the stuff is 19/32" T1-11@ $34.54 a sheet. Will use 45 sheets. We had some rain and snow in the foot hills so I did some wiring, pulling the 200 amp service wire in and hooked them up to the breaker. Sunday it rained hard melted the snow, the river came up a foot and Coho will all be coming in now and the river will not open for fishing till the 16th. Do you want to see photos of the Dungeness river and Coho fishing. I will be going fish or no fish.
John
Lookin Good John,
How'd that door work out? If I remember right you were going to insulate it right?
Regards,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
The big doors swing real good. I did pack them full of R-13. I still need to get some molding and weather seals on them and I'm working on a side door 36" by 8' tall I picked it up at the wast not want not salvage yard. To day I got the rest of the T1-11 siding up on the gable.
John
Hi John,
Please update us with the latest progress, if ya got time.
Just curious what ya goin to do with the shop. Make tools or
furniture?
Masrol
I have been fishing but no fish. this is the river near my house.
On the shop I got all the siding up and painted the first coat of stain, one more to go and all the trim to paint too.
To day I call for the electrical inspection as all the work is done. I have a 200 amp fused disconnect in the house feeding the 200 amp service panel in the shop.
I got a heat treat oven , it was listed in the paper for free, a very good price.
Insulation and sheet rock next
Hello John,
Thanks for the update & photos too. Do not go fishing if you
know there is no fish.
All the best
Masrol
simply curious ... why fused?
The Disconnect was used and came with the fuses and it was only $100. The shop is 70' away from disconnect, some of the 4/0 4/0 2/0 wire is under ground and some in 2" pvc in my garage, the transformer it 150' away from the disconnect, if it ever shorted the cost of replacing all that is a lot more than a fuse.
John
John,
Looking good man. Thanks for the update and don't forget your coffee mug on the winder sill!
Regards,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Dear John,
Post the updates when you have time.
I'm always following the progress of this particular project of yours.
Thanks
Masrol Sumairi
Monday I had the state electrical inspector look it all over, It passed I got the green sticker on the panel, good to go. Then I got the county building inspector looking over the framing It was OK too. Next I called Evergreen Building Prod. and had 40 sheets of 5/8"- 4' by 8' drywall sent over and a lifter too, $12.50 a sheet . It took me 2 days to get it all on the ceiling with a lifter
Today I'm so sore I had to take the day off.
I got to get the vent piping for my pellet stove installed, I got it online at http://www.ventingpipe.com saved about 20%, and I can blow in the ceiling insulation R-39. The walls will get R-19 But that is text weeks work .
John
Edited 11/5/2007 2:20 pm by Sequim Tool
Edited 11/5/2007 2:21 pm by Sequim Tool
JohnI'm so green with envy, and I'm thrilled for you. Thanks for the posts--I'm living vicariously through your experience and making notes for my own shop someday. Tom"Notice that at no time do my fingers leave my hand"
John,
At this stage I would consider anywhere you may want to hang stuff in the shop and add alot of blocks between the studs. Use a standard height and take pics so you don't forget where they all are located. Great looking shop!
John,At this stage I would consider anywhere you may want to hang stuff in the shop .. That place is bigger En' my house! Anywhere!
for hanging tools I like pegboard. I will have one wall of pegboard next to the bench. the rest drawers under counter cabinet. It's only 1132sqft, it's not so big, a man needs room to work.
John
I have been taking some days off from the shop the past week or so but I did get my $300. pellet stove in and working. I started on the insulation too. and got some lights up. sheet rock for the wall is coming next week. 40 sheets of 4' by 10' 1/2" stuff.
Did you all get your Tool & Shops issue, go to page 6, George Anderson of Sequim WA. you do nice work.
Matthew Teague shop is very nice too but at $39,440 for 700 sqft it's $56. a foot. My shop is 1132 sqft and I hope to come in at $26. a foot.
JohnLove the shop. I thought the same thing about Teague's shop--very nicely done, but a bit steep in price for a garage. I would love to have a 6-700 square foot shop someday. Tom"Notice that at no time do my fingers leave my hand"
Hi John,
How's thing going on ? I guess your new shop is ready by now to bite & chew anything you put in. Is it so?
It's so nice to know the progress of the shop after a week + since the last update you posted.
All the best
Masrol Sumairi
I'm down here in North Central Texas. Where are you? The cold winters will have a hard time getting passed those well insulated doors!!First off I LOVED Texas for some reason which I do not why remember now!Fort Hoot area. I came from Chicago which gets some pretty nasty winters. Well, back in 1960 or so I remember one winter there I FROZE MY BUTT OFF! Felt like 30 below here in Chicago! Only lasted a day or so I went outside and then I stepped into a Mud Puddle and Dust Blew Into My Eyes!
Please do NOT stop. This is good stuff.
Keep the updates coming!
agree, keep 'em coming. i check this thread first.
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