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   Walker1 | Sep 13, 2005 06:26am | #1

       Congrats, and don't forget to protect that sweet new tabletop.

           Now go make some sawdust!

                            Cheers.                         Walker1

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   steelhead | Sep 17, 2005 08:28pm | #2

   Would love to hear more about your new Delta hybrid.

   Woodcraft lists the saw in the online catalogue, but with a message that "Woodcraft no longer carries this product":

   http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?DeptID=4064&FamilyID=5302

   Anyone have any insight on the rapid disapearance of the latest Delta from Woodcraft's lineup? Woodcraft even ran a feature article about the new saw in the March issue of their magazine.

   I haven't been able to turn up much except that there may be more than a passing similarity to the Craftsman 22124.

   Some articles seem to indicate that the trunnion on the Delta is table-mounted (like a contractor saw) while the trunnion on the Craftsman is cabinet-mounted like a full caninet saw.

   I have been waiting to get a look at one of the new Delta hybrids, but may not get the chance if Woodcraft really has decided to drop these.

   I am encouraged to know that you are happy with your new hybrid, and would like to hear more as you get the chance to put her through the paces...

   Thanks for sharing any insight,

    

   STEELHEAD

   "The first rule of intelligent tinkering is to save all the pieces." - Aldo Leopold

   
   

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   Edited 9/17/2005 1:33 pm ET by steelhead

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   n8ivkjun | Sep 20, 2005 02:42am | #3

   I did purchase the saw from my local Woodcraft.  I also noticed the saw was removed from the website.  I suspect they were getting may disappointed customers complaining about the delivery date being changed time and again.  But the saw has produced much interest so it will probably make its way back on the site.

    

   As for the trunnion, it is mounted to the table top.  I'm not an expert on table saw design but the way I see it the table top is much sturdier than the cabinet so I don't see how that can be a negative thing.  The cabinet is going to give or flex before the cast iron top.  I am not sure how the craftsman saw is designed.

    

   I have not cut much with the saw yet but have cut some 4x4 poplar with no hesitation or power loss.

    

   I'll update you once I have more time to use the saw.

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   John_D | Sep 20, 2005 04:02am | #4

   The reason cabinet saws mount the trunnion to the cabinet rather than the table is so it's easier to square the table to the blade.  If the motor's cabinet-mounted, squaring the table is a matter of loosening the mount for the table and whacking it with a deadblow until it's true.

   This is somewhat easier than performing the same adjustment on a table-mounted motor, because in that case you have to make the fine adjustment to the motor itself, which is suspended out of the way and rather harder to make fine adjustments to.

   I've not heard anyone claim that once adjusted, there's any significant difference.  I've seen the assertion that cabinet-mounting reduces vibration, but I've never seen anything more stringent than the nickel (or dime) test reported.  So I suspect that once adjusted, the difference is minor at most.

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   K1500 | Sep 20, 2005 07:01pm | #5

   As far as the dime test...my Delta CS will pass that with the stock belt, so I wouldn't put much worth in that (either that or a good CS will be nearly as 'smooth' as a CS when it comes to balancing dimes on edge). 

   And let me tell you, it is pretty important to balance dimes on edge, I have to do that ALL the time when I work.  Oh, wait a minute...someone just told me the saw must be RUNNING during the dime test.  My bad (LOL)!

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   John_D | Sep 20, 2005 08:54pm | #6

   Heh, pretty funny.  I guess we're both making the same point:  It's hard to judge some of these features, particularly if we can't see a difference in the cut.