Does anybody know where you could get Nicholson Patternmakers rasps. I have the 49 and 50 and absolutely love the way they cut. Is there any source for getting some of old ones that they don’t make anymore. Does anybody have some they want to sell that are in good condition.
Thanks
Peter
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Peter... you mean like these...??
http://www.lie-nielsen.com/catalog.php?cat=525
Mike Wallace
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http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=30288&cat=1,42524
I've a the #50 rasp for almost 20 years, and it's worth every penny I paid. I've heard that the Ariou rasps made in Italy are even better, but I've never actually had the chance to use one. When you get one, just remember that a light touch works best. They work faster than you would suspect!
Ron
Here ya go. http://jamestowndistributors.com/find;a;1;ID;,Tools,Files,Pattern.Makers.Cabinet.Rasps
Rick
Peter
Or like these??!? http://www.toolsforworkingwood.com/Merchant/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=toolshop&Category_Code=TAU Awesome!!
Jeff
I am curious to know if anyone out there has actually tried any of the Auriou rasps........... and how do they compare with the Nicholson pattern maker rasps?Actually, I am going to post this over in the General section, so more people will see it.********************************************************
"It is what we learn after we think we know it all, that counts."
John Wooden 1910-
I've got one and it's great for what I use it for. What do you want from a rasp? Yes the Auriou is finer than the Nicholson, the one I have is like the difference between 80 grit sandpaper and 120 grit. The Auriou leaves a finer finish but sure doesn't cut as fast as the Nicholson but it's a long way from a final surface. The Auriou rasps come in a greater variety of shapes and different coarseness grades. They're all just tools, if you want a magic bullet look outside the tool world.
Hi Larry,
Speaking of rasps and such, I've been disappointed with the dullness of a new pair of plane floats, as well as their shortness, and have been using Vix files to clean up and fine-tune plane throats instead of floats.
What's your approach to fine-tuning wood-bodied planes?
Thanks,-Jazzdogg-
"Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come alive, and go do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive." Gil Bailie
If you got the floats from us, let's fix it. What will it take?I use floats daily but do have to keep them sharp.
Thanks for your reply, Larry. I obtained my floats from someone else. I guess it's time for me to break out my files - though I'll likely continue to use Vix files for throat bottoms, it'd be nice to have a sharp float for the sides.
I Still haven't figured out why plane floats are so short - probably "tradition!"
-Jazzdogg-
"Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come alive, and go do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive." Gil Bailie
jazzdog,Most old plane makers' floats I've seen are relatively long with about 6" of teeth. I suspect you're working with Tod Herrli's design which, I think, could be improved by grinding the sides to create a more acute angle from the front to the back. Are yours hardened?
What makes you think I'm looking for a "magic bullet?"I fail to see how my simple question warranted your sarcasm..............********************************************************
"It is what we learn after we think we know it all, that counts."
John Wooden 1910-
Even the Nicholson rasps, a line of two rasps, are relatively specialized tools. How can anyone compare them to the Auriou, a line of 40 or 50 rasps? The Auriou rasps are even more specialized. I was trying to give you some feedback on the one I have and its suitability for the use I have for it. Does it apply to you? Probably not but you didn't say what you wanted to do with one. Mine was bought for its shape and fineness of cut and it's a good companion to the 100 or so other files, rasps and rifflers I use--it fills a gap I needed to fill for my work. If you're trying to find comparable rasps to the Nicholsons, Auriou may have some. I don't know. If Auriou has rasps of a similar tooth pattern and shape to the Nicholsons, they'll probably work about the same but the Nicholsons will be cheaper.It's simply difficult to make general statements about very specialized tools and assume they'll fit someone else's needs. It would have been more than helpful if you had explained what you want the rasps to do. I must admit, I wouldn’t have been feeling so sarcastic if I hadn’t just opened my latest gas bill from the energy plutocracy.
I'm just curious what # cut Auriou do you use. I have a number of their rasps and find the #11 to be the closest to the Nicholson #49 but it leaves, in my opinion, a slightly better finish than the Nicholson.
Brent
Brent,I've got their 8" half-round 14 grain rasp.
You must find it leaves a considerably smoother finish than the #49 ?
Brent
Yes Brent, it does leave a smoother finish than the more coarse #49. It also doesn't cut nearly as fast and is a long way from a finish surface. I think a good file would cut as fast and leave a better finish I just don't have one with that profile. I think the Grobet 00 cut half-round file would cut as fast as the Auriou 14 grain and leave a finer finish.On edit, I just checked pricing. The Auriou was $85 and the Grobet 00 cut of the same profile is a 6" long file for $21. With the Grobet I have the option of being able to follow with finer files of the same profile.
Edited 1/13/2006 2:52 pm by lwilliams
Lets face it Larry. Price is something that tends to take a large leap ahead of quality in tools. Is one rasp worth 30 bucks more than another, only the user can say, and only for himself.
What I particularily like about the Aurious is the slight angling of the rows of teeth. It seems to me to make for easier use than a Nicholson. That makes the price difference worth it to me, but someone else might not find it worth it. I can't comment on the Grobets, never having used one.
I think one thing everyone who has used an auriou can agree on is that they are great rasps. Are they worth 30 bucks more than Nicholsons......... that's where we'll see different opinions.
Brent
Edited 1/13/2006 5:53 pm ET by BrentS
Edited 1/13/2006 5:53 pm ET by BrentS
Take a look at brownelles the gunsmith supply company they have had them in the past at a very good price. Also Garret Wade has them to.
Troy
I dont think the Ariou rasps work any better than the Nicholson #49 but maybe that's because I ordered the left hand model. (I'm left handed but have used standard rasps for years). They are heavier if that makes any difference. My favourite is the Dragon rasps from Stewmac luthier supply. The Nicholson rasps clog the easiest but they sharpen well by Boggs Tool and file Sharpening service.
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