Well I just returned my Rigid Ts3650 the other day because of the well known arbor issue. Well a few days later the bandsaw that i ordered from Grizzly came in. So I went and picked it up got it home. I had it all out of the box which was in perfect condition by the way everything packed well. I got it all put together including the riser block kit it is a G0555 ultimate 14 inch saw also. I started looking over it with a bright light when i noticed a crack in the casting right near the foot that bolts to the stand. Now Im afraid to even move the thing for fear of the crack getting bigger and having that foot fall off. I have a picture if anyone is interested. I contacted Grizzly today with an email and I am awaiting there reply. All in all i am very pleased with the saw other than the fact that the foot is cracked. So now it looks like my building will go on hold for awhile longer. Guess it really doesnt matter since the table saw i bought from grizzly is on back order any way. I just cant seem to win lately with the big purchases. Ill repost when I hear from Grizzly.
Later
Centaur76
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I would see If you can get your money back.
They bought a Griz bandsaw at the shop I work in to replace the old Delta.
The Griz is joke - almost impossible to track - impossible to lock the tracking knob - the guides are so so but the upper arm has 1/4 in. play back & forth, hope they bring back the old Delta it was lot better saw than the new Griz. I think the Griz would good saw at the bottom of a lake.
You get what you pay for
...the upper arm has 1/4 in. play back & forth...
has anyone talked to Grizzly about it? this is the first negative comment I've seen about the saw (it is a 0555?)..."there's enough for everyone"
No - it is Modle # G1073Z 16 in. Bandsaw . In the catalog " Fully adjustable upper wheel"
Yea its fully adjustable - the top wheel is like on a hinge of a thing that the track adjuster pushes up against. So when the top of the wheel ever gets a hair beyond center " to the back of saw" it will throw the blade off , the wheel just flips to the back. The adjuster is not attached to it, You got to keep the thrust bearing against the blade to force to stay centered on the wheel.
Look in the Reader Classified hear seems to be lots of Griz for sale
Maybe that model is a lemon, but don't throw stones at the whole line. I've got a 1019Z bandsaw with a riser block. After I got it set up, it's never been a problem at all. In face, there's so little drift, that for resawing anything 2' or less, I just leave the fence I use set at 90* and saw away. I've got some tools in my shop I'd like to replace, but the Grizzly bandsaw sure isn't one of them. Alan & Lynette Mikkelsen, Mountain View Farm, est. 1934, Gardens & Fine Woodworking, St. Ignatius, MT
I would see If you can get your money back.
They bought a Griz bandsaw at the shop I work in to replace the old Delta.
The Griz is joke - almost impossible to track - impossible to lock the tracking knob - the guides are so so but the upper arm has 1/4 in. play back & forth, hope they bring back the old Delta it was lot better saw than the new Griz. I think the Griz would good saw at the bottom of a lake.
You get what you pay for
Here is what the gentleman said. At no point does he mention anything other than the experience his shop had with one specific saw.
He's not throwing stones at the whole line
They bought the saw and it was totally unacceptable. There's nothing wrong with him stating so.
You folks that own Grizzly equipment are hyper-sensitive to negative comments.
I hear tons of comments about how good Grizzly's customer service department is. All I can say is that it sounds like a lot of people have found it necessary to contact them.
I evaluate a company and their equipment by the fact that I DON'T have to call their customer service or equipment service departments.
Edited 1/7/2005 3:36 pm ET by BossCrunk
Boss, I disagree that "He's not throwing stones at the whole line." By his tone and the "You get what you pay for" line, he's tossing Grizz on the trash heap.
BTW, I will jump just as firmly on someone who trashes Jet, Delta, Bridgewood, Porter Cable, Hitachi, Milwaukee, etc., etc., etc., if they base their derision on very limited, or outdated, experience.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)Another proud member of the "I Rocked With ToolDoc Club" .... :>)
"... Look in the Reader Classified hear seems to be lots of Griz for sale ..."
I did! There were five threads over the past six months. All of the sellers were very complimentary of the Grizzly equipment, but were up-sizing and selling smaller equipment. None of them seemed to have any trouble selling the Grizzly equipment, either.
I bought a Grizzly G0513 bandsaw in August and it was spotless out of the crate. I've done everything from ripping 1/8" thick material to resawing 12" wide cherry and mahogany. I set the fence square to the miter slot, center the tracking adjustment and go for it!
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Ron, I can't speak to the specific model you've had trouble with, but to slam the rest of the bandsaws based on your experience with that one model is pretty....uhhhhh......lame. You're outnumbered big-time in terms of positive vs. negative experiences in the forums with both the bandsaws and, should you be interested, cabinet saws and jointers.
Perhaps you missed this thread specifically on Grizzly tools. I'll reiterate a question raised earlier: Did anyone call Grizzly about the problem you were having?? The 1073Z is one of the most acclaimed saws they've made, so my guess is the problem is an unusual one. On the other hand, for a production shop, the newer G0513 might be a better choice.
To answer the question I always get when I stand up for Grizzly, no I don't own a stable full, but I have the 1019Z band saw and follow Grizzly-related threads closely to see how the various machines perform for their users. As a budget-challenged woodworker who relies to some extent on forum members' advice when selecting a tool, it burns me no end when someone slams an entire company and its tools due to extremely limited experience, an old purchase, lack of follow-up on their part with customer service, or any combination of the three.
forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)Another proud member of the "I Rocked With ToolDoc Club" .... :>)
Edited 1/3/2005 5:59 pm ET by forestgirl
I am posting some pics of the saw it is a G0555 ultimate 14" with the riser blocks. It almost looks like the metal underneath the paint where the crack is is rusted. Well tell me what you think about the pics? Im not changing my mind on the saw I like it I just want one that is structurally sound.
Later
Centaur76
Now I know how Griz can offer such good deals they just paint over the RUST.
To all Griz people don't worry I wont buy any Griz so there will be aplenty for you all
Ill just stick with Delta spend a little more $
Thank You
Ron the Delta Freak
yup.........thats a crack all right. Sizely one tooWicked Decent Woodworks
Rochester NH
" If the women dont find you handsome, they should at least find you handy........yessa!"
This is not just a cracked casting - look at it. Something hit it that split a wedge out of the web. See how it is cupped and has two angled cracks. Something hit it and bent the casting and almost broke a piece out. It may have happened at grizzley, maybe in shipping, maybe when you unloaded it. But it's not a casting flaw and may very well not be grizzley's fault at all.
Look carefully at the crack. If it was there before the casting was painted there will be traces of paint in the crack. From the photos it looks like this was broken after it was painted. It looks like something hit it rather hard (dents). My guess would be a forklift got it maybe even after it was boxed so it was not noticable. I bet the manufacturer will send this right to their quality dept for testing to see when the break happened. This could happen to any brand. What determines if I would do further business with them is if they replace it and how they treat me when handling the replacement.The Professional Termite
I agree that the crack looks like its been there for awhile I mean it has rust in it or so it seems there is. How ever there is no dent from running my finger around wherer the crack is on the saw. So I dont agree with the hit or dropped theory lol. If your going to hit stell hard enough to crack it there should be a mark on it. The only spot that is rubbed off where that paint is is from me I scraped the paint off a little with a knife. I wanted to see just how deep the crack was. I am happy that they are going to replace the saw that is all I wanted. I just want a saw that works. This will be my first bandsaw so Im pretty psyched about it. I think the table saw is on back order just because its new model G0576 2Hp left tilt tablesaw.
later Centaur76
I think your saw was handled wrong by the shipping company,I have a Grizzly cabinet saw and the trucking company messed that up,looks like somebody's 3 year old was working the tow moter,but I gotta say the people at Grizzly made every thing right as rain and then some. As for whats best I have Delta and Grizzly and General and all have performed well so I can't bitch about one over the other,alot changed when all the manufacturers sent their own quality control people to the founderies and plants overseas and most of this stuff comes from a very few plants,so I gotta say some of it is luck with all the companies and some of it is just bad luck since you can't pick who handles it every step of way.
Well Hello
So you know I'm not a weekend worker and have worked in production shops 20 years.
Delta makes decent tools at least the ones I seen and used, I seen and used better also.
I seen and use some Griz , myself I don't want or need any.
How may bad things you hear about Delta ?
Delta will work for you with out all that hassle.
Everyone has an opinion
and that's mine.
Ron
"How may bad things you hear about Delta ? " At least as many as I've heard about Grizzly, but that doesn't stop me from buying selected Delta tools (Oh, and I wouldn't turn down a Unisaw if someone wants to give me one).
"I seen and use some Griz , myself I don't want or need any." I got no problem with that.
"Everyone has an opinion" So true. Your opinion on this issue, which IMO is not particularly well-founded, will be balanced by mine, which (of course) I believe to be fairly well researched and current.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)Another proud member of the "I Rocked With ToolDoc Club" .... :>)
" researched and current "
You should be up to date on all the tools with all the tool reviews that's in FWW now.
Myself I would rather see articles on Wood Working.
I think I will keep my head buried in the sand and stay with what I have faith in .
Delta is a better Tool in my Opinion
Well everyone has one and that's mine
Ron
Well Grizzly is sending me a new saw to replace the one I have with the crack in it. I am not complaining about there service at all. I have a Grizzly Drill press that I have very happy with. I was displeased with Ridgid for selling me a saw that apparently they knew had a problem for some time. It has since been rectified owners of the ts3650 are being sent out new arbors for their saws. I am happy that Grizzly is replacing my saw which is all I want really. The Grizzly people were very courteous and helpful and solved my problem. I like many others have to weigh cost and value among many other factors. I cannot constitute top dollar for everything I want. Grizzly happens to fill a very good area in regards to some of my tool needs. Do I own all Grizzly no, Do I hate Delta no. When I was in college I had the pleasure of using all Delta tools which was awesome. How ever I dont have the budget that my school did. Ah well I dont want to get caught up in the my tool is better than yours argument lol. All in all Im just happy that the assortment and variety is diverse so that the options are always there. Later Centaur76
Centaur76,
1st I'm glad you took the tb back to BOB. I felt that was the right thing for ya' to do. I have the G0555 since they came out in '03 (Got mine in June '03) and it has been a great saw so far. I'm not sure I would use the riser kit for mine as I feel the motor is alittle underpowered for any taller re-sawing than it will do at the stock height. Maybe yours will work fine. Let us know how it's works out.
I surprised they back-ordered your ts. I've been to that Springfield store and man they got a wharehouse with 700,000 sf of tools!!!
Anyway I'm like alot of other people here. I buy to make my $$$ do the most for me.
I own Ridgid, Craftsman, Delta, Grizz, P-C, Dewalt and I've seen bad and good in ALL OF THEM! Good luck with your new toys!
Jimmy
As always I wish you enough.
I've got nothing against Delta and nothing against Grizzly, and have had some success with both. They both have a place in the market, but I've got to respond to the comment: " How may bad things you hear about Delta ? "
I've heard plenty of complaints on Delta...even from Unisaw owners. Reading or hearing a negative comment doesn't phase me much unless I read multiple things about the same problem (like a recent arbor problem with a well known TS), which indicates a systemic design or manufacturing quality defect. Like the problem about two years ago with warped fences on the Delta 37-195 ...their more expensive 6" jointer. Even then, most of the systemic problems are bugs in a new design (ie: DW735 gears were a problem with several early models, Delta's 22-560 known issues with early models.) In most cases a single complaint is for a rare isolated problem. That's what most of the posted problems are that we read about. I've read alot of individual posts about isolated problems with the Delta 22-580 planers last fall...a variety of different issues that didn't indicate a widespread design defect, cbut there's a definite correllation to the high number of units that got clearanced through Lowes last August, so even the "number" of defects shouldn't necessarily raise flags. The "ratio" of defective units is a better indicator of problems, but it's not a figure that most of us have access to. If defect ratios are roughly the same between manufacturers, the company that sells the most machines will have the highest number of complaints. There's not a company in the market place selling a signicant number of machines that hasn't had some unhappy customers complain on the internet.
So while I've read plenty of Delta woes, and a fair share of Grizzly woes, as far as I can tell neither company has experienced major systemic design or tolerance issues recently, but with Delta's new Shopmaster line, I think the probability is alot higher than ever.
I work in one of the big box stores frequently dissed in this forum. I've sold several of the Delta Shopmaster products, and I make certain that the buyer fully understands that he/she isn't buying a top of the line product. That said, I will explain the differences that I'm aware of, and let them make an informed choice. If a guy only uses a planer a couple of times a year, and buys it for just one specific job, he is often willing to cut his boards 4" longer than finished length to compensate for the expected snipe. Delta does have one Shopmaster product that has more than a normal rate of returns. Their twin-stack compressor/nailgun kit has come back to us fairly frequently, usually for one of two reasons. The 2-in-1 gun would make a good paperweight (and the tightly coiled PVC hose doesn't bring a smile to anyone's face), and the couplings leak air like a sieve even with liberal applications of Teflon tape. That said, the compressor itself is a steal! An oil-lube twin stack unit that pushes more than 5 CFM @ 90 psi for less than $150 is not that common on the market, and I've had many contractors buy the unit just for that reason. As one guy said " I'll give the gun to the guys on the crew who always break tools, and even if the compressor only lasts me for 6 months I'm ahead of the game compared to the cost of a Senco or Paslode unit." So buy the compressor, throw away the gun, and get some decent couplers and you should be ahead of the game especially if you don't use the unit every day. Just remember to change the oil every 25 operating hours!I would also mention that the new 12" variable speed drill press has generated a lot of positive feedback, and seems to be a good deal for the money. Lots of power, smooth operation and the buyers love adjusting speed from the front of the unit rather than swapping belts on pulleys. The only gripe thus far has been the length of quill travel.Regards,Ron
Edited 1/8/2005 5:21 pm ET by RoninOttawa
Ron, re: the Shopmaster line, doesn't it now include the 13" 2-speed planer and the older 12.5" with simply a new model number on it? I have the older 12.5" and it has performed admirably -- snipe being mostly an operator's problem, LOL.
I stay away from the very "bottom" of the Shopmaster line, but otherwise it seems to contain some bargains for tools that aren't used day in and day out. I have the 16" VS scroll saw with quick-set blade holders and am very impressed with the value.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)Another proud member of the "I Rocked With ToolDoc Club" .... :>)
To the best of my knowledge, it does not include the 2-speed planer. However, I've sold two Shopmaster planers, a 12" and a 12 1'2" version whcih comes with a stand. About $75 difference in the prices.Regards,Ron
Ron ,
do you by chance work at HD south end after taking cabinet making at Algonquin.
No...you're thinking of Marc. He's the tall, handsome one! However, I have more scar tissue and war stories, so that should count for something! Regards,Ron
Hi FG.. I agree, no sense in slamming the entire line just because of one problem. However, and you knew there would be a however didnt you, I was unaware that Grizzly manufactured anything. I was always under the impression that they were reconditioners of substandard line items from other companies. My resources tell me that they buy off items that will not pass final QC and then repair the problems and re-sell them. Often their repair and inspection process is better than the OEM which is why they have the fine reputation that they do.
If what my folks tell me is true about Grizzly then comparing a Grizzly to a Chinese Delta could very well be a comparison between a Delta and a Delta or a Jet and a Jet, etc. For sure there are some easy distintive liknesses to the Shop Fox brand name.
My two cents
Sincerely;
The Tool Guy
Hi TG, yeah, I knew there's be a but, LOL.
"I was always under the impression that they were reconditioners of substandard line items from other companies. " This is a very serious charge, and not one, IMO, you should make in a public forum like this without verifying it. It sounds completely bogus to me.
I don't know how the could be "reconditioners" when they come up with models such as the G0555 bandsaw long before companies such as Jet even bothered to provide, standard, a quality fence, quick release, and stock roller bearings in their 14" model.
"they buy off items that will not pass final QC and then repair the problems and re-sell them." That'd be a hugely inefficient way to make money on any kind of scale. Grizzly isn't a small store running in a downtrodden part of town somewhere. How do you stock a million quare feet of warehouse space with seconds you repair and resale. Why would you need a large staff of engineers if that's all you do?
If you really belive what your "sources" have told you, well, for one I'm disappointed, but beyond that, I think you should contact Mr. Balolia (President of Grizzly) and talk to him personally.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)Another proud member of the "I Rocked With ToolDoc Club" .... :>)
"I was always under the impression that they were reconditioners of substandard line items from other companies. " This is a very serious charge, and not one, IMO, you should make in a public forum like this without verifying it. It sounds completely bogus to me."
I'm with you again on this one Forestgirl. Geesh, who let the dogs out? It's one thing to have a negative opinion, hopefully for logical reasons, but quite another to make damaging false claims as irresponsible as that one. Kind of like me saying I was always under the impression that Tool Guy's big brother poked at his "soft spot" when he was a tike. ;-)
Grizzly sells ALOT of machines....in some cases more than any competitor for a given machine at a given price point. Is Toolguy inadvertantly saying that Grizzly's competitors manufacturer more substandard machines than "in spec" machines? ...they'd have to in order to keep Grizzly supplied.
TG,
To follow along the vein that FG started, here's part of the content from the Grizzly 'About Us' page:
"Founded in 1983 by S. Balolia, Grizzly Industrial is a national retail, mail order and Internet company in the U.S.A. providing high quality woodworking and metalworking machinery and accessories.
We have almost a million square feet of space at our three large distribution centers and showrooms located on the West Coast, East Coast and the mid South to facilitate fast and economical shipping. We also have offices in Taiwan and China with our own quality control engineers that oversee the production of our equipment. Each of our facilities has a regional service center with a complete machine shop and trained technicians to help in after-service.
Our machines have won numerous awards for quality and value. With an intense focus on providing excellent customer service and products that will last a long time, our goal has always been to sell the best quality products at the best price. We do not have a dealership network and sell our products directly to the end users. There are no middlemen.
We have one of the largest, fully stocked parts departments in the industry with a solid inventory of over 87,000 different parts! At any give time, we have over a million parts in stock. Our in-house technical documentation department has been recognized by several magazines for having the best manuals in the industry."
Perhaps you should acquire one of their catalogs to aid in your research of your competitor. In any competitive endeavor, one must know everything one can about the other side. Telling the audience the other guy is 'bad' doesn't prove anything.
During my career, a number of 'salespersons' were all too happy to start bad-mouthing the competition. The most successful knew their product intimately and didn't try to make the other guys look bad.
Best Regards,
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Edited 1/7/2005 3:36 pm ET by BArnold
I have no first (or even second) hand experience with Grizzly. I have never so much as laid eyes on one of their products.
However, if you read this paragraph very carefully:
We have almost a million square feet of space at our three large distribution centers and showrooms located on the West Coast, East Coast and the mid South to facilitate fast and economical shipping. We also have offices in Taiwan and China with our own quality control engineers that oversee the production of our equipment. Each of our facilities has a regional service center with a complete machine shop and trained technicians to help in after-service.
Nowhere do they say that they produce anything. They have engineers that oversee, they have offices, they have service centers....
Maybe I'm looking too hard, and they don't feel the need to state what they think is obvious. Or maybe the wording is carefully chosen to suggest, without actually stating, what they want people to think.
Or maybe it's me. I've just spent a long time in a small room with a lot of wet Waterlox!
I don't know all that much about the manufacturing process in this world economy, but I don't think you can go over to Taiwan and find various factories labelled "Jet," "Delta," or (yep) "Grizzly." What you're alluding to is nothing mysterious. Hardly any big company actually manufactures anything anymore, do they. It's subbed out to an Asian factory, and quality control is probably the determining factor as to who has the best product at any given time.
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Edited 1/8/2005 4:15 pm ET by forestgirl
I'm not alluding to anything. I'm saying that with a slightly paranoid mind set, that paragraph could be read to mean that they don't actually produce anything.
I had someone tell me that firearms manufacturers sell their seconds at the large discount stores, while the gun dealers get all the "correctly" manufactured firearms. Of course, this is ridiculous. As someone else mentioned, that would mean that the manufacturers are producing more seconds than anything else.
I did some asking around, and found out that firearm manufacturers make a "discount store" grade of product, that is distributed through the Walmarts, etc. These products usually have poorer quality wood, rougher fit and finish, and are not available through regular gun stores. The discount store models share the same model # as the higher grade, but usually with an added letter.
Some have said that tool manufacturers do the same thing with the tools that are distributed through HD and Lowe's.
Again, I know absolutely nothing about Grizzly, but it is at least plausible that they are not manufacturing anything.
"... Look in the Reader Classified hear seems to be lots of Griz for sale "
Ron,
Did YOU look at the ads in the Reader Classified area? Maybe you should look at them and read them this time.
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Bill,
I don't think comments in the classified section from people who are SELLING their machines is a very good source regarding quality. I haven't seen too many ads that say," this machine has been a problem from day one , anyone want to buy it?"
Alex,
I agree. My response to Ron was to rebut his contention that people are selling their Grizzly products because they are junk. Quite the contrary.
By the way, I'm not an advocate of any particular brand of machine. I'm basically a price/value person trying to get maximum mileage from my expenditures. There are guys in these forums who will mortgage their first born to get an expensive top-of-the-line machine. A few years ago, I worked for a guy who had become a multi-millionaire, was in his mid-30s, could obviously buy any line of equipment at any price and he chose Grizzly because of the price/value ratio.
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Centaur,
You must be living under a storm cloud! That cracked casting is certainly bad news. Such things happen, not often, but the combination with the Ridgid saw problem must driving you batty.
Next thing you'll tell us that your team lost this weekend!
Here's some good news.
1. Grizzly tech support is the best I've ever run across. They'll have a new saw on its way to you as soon as you tell them the problem tomorrow.
2. The G0555 is a good saw. It's not the best 14 inch bandsaw in the world, but it is certainly value for the money and will get the job done with no problems. You won't be disappointed with it.
Rich
Well, by your logic, then I suppose five threads listing 'Grizzly For Sale' over a six month period constitutes 'lots' of bad equipment being dumped.
Bill Arnold - Custom Woodcrafting
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As Sailalex already pointed out, looking for a product endorsement from a seller of equipment is a logical flaw you could drive a truck through.
"This equipment is junk, won't you please buy it for 80% of the original purchase price."
Bill, what is about equipment being sold that you interpret as a testimonial?
Forgive me, but I don't get it.
I have no idea how many people are dumping Grizzly equipment. Certainly they would be advertising in other places besides this forum - most likely locally as shipping would be prohibitive. It's likely to cost more to pack and ship a piece of Grizzly equipment than it's worth. The company can ship it cost effectively because they have negotiated deals with truck lines.
Surely you aren't suggesting that the number of for sale ads here is indicative of anything? I'm not.
My original point was that the guy pointed out the flaws in a piece of Grizzly equipment. And these were not vague assertions smearing the whole line as the knee-jerk reaction suggested.
Edited 1/7/2005 4:39 pm ET by BossCrunk
Wow didn't mean to start up such a traumatic discussion involving Grizzly. I just want my new bandsaw lol. I own a Grizzly drill press and couldn't be happier with it does everything I need. That is the only definition of a tool that I go buy. How am I going to use it and does it justify what I am paying.
As far as some of the other comments on this thread like I saw six grizzly products in the classifieds for sale so they must be crap. Its like saying I saw a Ford for sale in the paper today wow they must make some horrible vehicles.
Ahhh well I'm sorry for even starting this thread it just turned into a slug fest. All I wanted was some feedback maybe some analogies to other peoples hectic tool adventures. No ones perfect Grizzly, Delta or otherwise tools break and get broken just like anything else. Sorry for instigating any heated discussions on the matter of my broken bandsaw lol. Maybe my next post wont incite such passion.
Later
Centaur76
All I can say is that after messing w/that delta for two years and almost calling it quits as far as bandsaw goes I get a flier in the mail with the new 14" Grizz in there,off I go to Springfield. Actually the wife is dragging me cause she can't stand me bawling over that delta. Long story cut short,got it home,set it up,and started sawing.Love it.When I get to use it, if I could just get her to release that tension .I also have every brand name out there and more that I dom't need.
Centaur, no apologies needed about starting the thread, and I do hope we didn't totall spoil it for you, LOL. This particular discussion is "strong" I guess, but not overly heated by Knots standards.
"I just want my new bandsaw." I can empathize. Hang in there.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)Another proud member of the "I Rocked With ToolDoc Club" .... :>)
Get your money back. Save your money and get a rockwell 14". Best value in my shop. I appreciate your email because I was considering purchaising a grizzly shaper. I know of a rockwell for $600 that I bette jump on.
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