Some of you may have seen some of these old parts before, maybe have some tucked away somewhere. I have these that came along with an old lathe I got a few years ago, but they don’t fit. I have an old Atlas lathe. None of this stuff fits it in any way I can see. I looked over on OWWM.com but haven’t been able to post there yet, so I figured while I am waiting for that site, maybe someone here has seen this stuff and can give a heads up on it. The smaller face plate looks like it can have left or right hand threads in it, and the larger one only has left hand threads. The tail stock is old and worn but still works. I don’t have a center for it though.
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Any Idea of the thread size and TPI (threads per inch) on the larger one, If it's 1" X 12 TPI left handed thread, I might be interested if the price is right. I have an old Walker Turner lathe.
Work Safe, Count to 10 when your done for the day !!
Bruce S.
I'll try to get some measurements on those parts and post them here today if possible.
The larger plate is 1 inch by 10 threads per inch. It is the same as one end of the head stock I have but it doesn't thread on, and on closer look there are some slightly damaged threads about a half inch in, so maybe that is the reason I couldn't get it to work. The other plate is 1 inch by 8 threads both left and right. That doesn't fit anything on my lathe at all, and if I knew what it fit would be interested in selling or trading the pair of those that I have.
RATS, I would have been ready to swap or buy but I need 1" X 12TPI Left hand. My Old Walker Turner has an outboard spindle and I'am wanting to build a floor mounted tool post and rest so I can do much larger green wood bowls. Again RATS.
Work Safe, Count to 10 when your done for the day !!
Bruce S.
Well, I sure wish I could have filled your order on that. I am not that good at turning yet, and since I doubt that I will be doing bowls anyway, this thing really won't do me any good. If I can get the thing cleaned up well enough to fit my lathe, I might be able to get it sold to someone as a direct fit for something.
I double dog dare you to try a bowl or two and then try to stop doing them. Its a niche in turning where you can let your imagination go rampant and be a bit artistic at the same time. Generally when I start a bowl I have no preconceived form in mind and just let the wood dictate what its going to look like. But I do take into account grain, colourand defects
Work Safe, Count to 10 when your done for the day !!
Bruce S.
Well, you just have to go for a double dog dare... One of these days I'll get a plate on my lathe and try one. You may be right, seems like anything else in woodworking I try I liked very well. I had in mind building a shaving horse to try out and see how well I can get at making spindles for chairs, something that has fascinated me for a while. It looks easy, but I know there is some skill involved that will take time to gain. Did you ever try that? My son (14) says he wants to learn that too, and since he's interested I figure that one has to be attempted. He likes turning too, maybe he'll be the bowl maker here.
Now on chair spindles, one way to start is to offer to repair any broken ones you come across. We have to visit my wifes sister every tuesday, and we take her out for a pub lunch. So far I have repaired around twenty broken chairs, replacing fancy spindles, rails etc and remaking all glue starved joints. Not for money, I am retired, but for fun and I usually get a free guinness.
It's a heck of a good way to improve your skills.
Now there's an idea! Guess I should take a crack at that, at least after I have learned how to make a spindle that looks right, and see how it goes. Doing it for free also relieves me of a mistake, if it doesn't work, I don't have to worry about it coming back to bite me, just repair it again and go on. I have an antique rocker that was passed down from my mothers side of the family and has broken spindles on it, one is so damaged it will have to have a turning put in place but the others can be repaired with what is there. I started on it once and learned that my turning skills need to be better as well as my tools for turning, and once that happens I will try that one again also. It is made of oak, so it shouldn't be a problem making parts, and I think I can finish the chair as a whole to look good, make it not so noticeable that it was repaired by a rank amateur. :-)
The outside spindle on my ancient wood lathe is only 3/4" while the inside is 1 1/4" X 7. That outside shaft is not strong enough for anything very large. So here is what I did. After sawing off the top of the headstock and removing the split ring bronze bearing (which I couldn't seal and consequently got an oil shower constantly), I welded a 1/2" plate to what was left of the headstock. I then mounted two 1 1/4" ball bearng pillow blocks side by side to give me a stable usable headstock. I increased my inside turning capacity from 11" to 22" by bolting the headstck to a steel box I constructed from 6" channel iron.
To obtain a usable tool rest at the right height I do this:
A 6"X 6" X 10" block of solid steel is placed on top of the flat way plate. This block and any of various shaped and sized piecs of 1/2" steel are free to swing around behind a big turning, or inside a deep bowl. The original tool rests that swiveled and moved on the flat way plate, I now clamp to the various steel plates on top of the block with a heavy C clamp.. The whole tool rest assembly is rendered exremely stable and solid by a long 5/8"bolt through plates, block, way plate, way, and is anchored by a tap under the cast iron eccentric
lever tightener which slides on the under side of the cast iron ways.
I also had to re-tool the belts and jack shaft. I raised the live center tailstock with a bock of wood.
Bruce:
McMaster carr would be a good place to look for a 1" 12 LH nut that could be welded to a steel plate of about 4" dia and then trued to your spindle. By adding screw holes that are chamferd form the back you could mount any size plywood face to it. I got real lucky last month as my neigbor was building a new house and the beems were of 1 3/4 plywood, I salvaged six pieces, made face plates form 6" to 16". JigSawJohn
I just cleaned up a faceplate that matches your need, 8 inch, 1"-12 LH threads, if (about 6 years after your post) you are still interested, please contact me. Note I also make faceplates and can make that and other odd sizes, see wbnoble.com
More like 15 years, but who's counting.
The threaded both ways faceplate was a common feature of Delta accessories for their line of lathes which were 8 tpi on a 1" diameter.
Here's a link you can try. There is a wealth of information on this site. http://www.lathes.co.uk
That is a good site for sure!! It will take me a while to get through all the stuff there, but I will enjoy every minute of it.
some of them attachments look suspiciously craftsmanoid.
There is a user group for the craftsman 109 which undoubtedly contains afficiandos of other lathes as well.
[email protected],
might be a place to look.
Eric in Cowtown
The AA 109 series of lathes are all tiny metal lathes, they are only about 20 inches long, with a 1/2 diameter threading on the spindle.
John W.
johnww was saying....The AA 109 series of lathes are all tiny metal lathes, they are only about 20 inches long, with a 1/2 diameter threading on the spindle.........................All I was sayin was that they pix looked suspiciously craftsmanoid -specially that tailstock with it's 50ish buck rogers look - and pointed in the direction of the 109 user group for possible answers to the query with their experiences there for the asking.No doubt I will be proven wrong. But in the absence of any other illuminating suggestions of where to look for the answers, John, it was my best educated guess. Eric
The faceplate in the xxx028.jpg pic is a Delta 46-937 6" faceplate, with both LH and RH threads. The similar, older no. 937 had slots as well as holes.
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The 0028 jpg looks just like my Delta 6" faceplate, vintage 1946. I don't think they have changed much since then either. The 0030 jpg tailstock looks like by Dad's Delta Homecraft (now owned by my brother). The 0029 jpg tailstock looks more like a craftsman or possibly an old Wards machine. Can't really tell. Any parts numbers in the castings?
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