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   RickL | Feb 14, 2007 09:13pm | #1

   Actually, as I understand it, Delta set them up originally. South American countries don't seem to let outsiders own property there.  The Invicta stuff is perfeclty fine. I used to work on the Delta/Invicta stuff and  it was solidly built to last. Newer stuff I've seen looks just as good. They were making the bigger planers for Delta. They kind of disappeared from the states for a number of years but there are several dealers selling the stuff.

   They made a nice 16" jointer years ago for Delta.Seemed kind of silly for Delta to have a 6,8, and 16" jointer. Always would bug the regional sales guy on why they didn't make a 12"!!!

   http://www.invicta-usa.com

   They did increase the prices a bit over the last year or so. The Jointer and mortiser were priced pretty low in the beginning.

    

   
   

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   Edited 2/14/2007 1:17 pm ET by RickL

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   mapleman | Feb 15, 2007 02:05am | #2

   Hi Rick,

   Thanks for the info. I was hoping you would chime in.

   Lee

   Edited 2/14/2007 6:08 pm by mapleman

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   hammer1 | Feb 15, 2007 05:15am | #3

   I had a Rockwell 16" RJ 42, made by Invicta. It had lever adjustments and you would want to be sure to tighten the small lock knob well, or the table could drop to full depth. This model was very loud, sounded like a turboprop firing up. A near by business would ask what the heck that machine was. Dust collection was not the greatest, although, I had 6" duct with lots of power. Chips could get into the motor area and you would need to remove the covers to know how full it was getting. The fence is heavy and you should watch your hands when you release the detents. It's a beast of a jointer, heavy duty industrial, all the way. I think newer models have added quiet head inserts on the bed. Machinery in this class will take 3 phase electrical supply and it will draw some juice. Invicta is still in business and makes some nice quality equipment including a heavy table saw with riving knife.

   Beat it to fit / Paint it to match

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   terrylee86 | Feb 15, 2007 04:09pm | #4

   Lee,

   My neighbor has a Invicta/Delta jointer 16" and a 14" sliding table saw and his equipment is very high quality, but totally industrial.  He is a farmer so he already had three phase power and I think most of their stuff is 3-phase. I have used his tablesaw for years to do do my squaring of large panels ( saves me from getting a Felder ) and I like the machine.  I use his big machines on large panels(37" Timesaver) and he usually gets about 50lbs. of walleye fillets each summer ( I don't WW in the summer I fish ) and we are both happy as a clam.  25 million walleye in Lake Erie, I guess somebody has to catch them.

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   mapleman | Feb 16, 2007 12:15am | #5

   Hammer/Terry,

   Thanks for the input guys. I am enclosing a pic of the machine in question. Appears to be a newer model with the quiet inserts in the bed. It's approaching $2300 at auction, with about roughly another $800 to ship to me. New is $4450 on the invicta site. I may have to pass, I'm sure the price will be driven up the closer to the end of the auction (ebay) it gets. There were relatively no bids for the first couple of days. Looks to be a really sweet piece of iron.

   Lee

   
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   RickL | Feb 16, 2007 12:52am | #6

   There are plenty of deals out there. There was an American Jointer in my local paper for $1,000. http://www.exfactory.com is a brokerage site and they tack on a fee. Best way to find stuff is to ask around. I've seen older 16" ball bearing jointers go for free to $100. Best auctions are ones where an metal working shop had a crating department or you call the local shops seeing if they have any old tools for sale. You can't imagine how many shops buy new tools and shove the old one in the corner for emergency and forget about it. Nothing wrong with babbitt and a new style head. I really like those old Crescent jointer. I find the small inclines on the tables better than the parallelogram   for adjusting. The last 16" jointer I bought was an Oliver for $1750 and put $400 in regrinding the tables and tapping into the windings on the motor. I sold  it for $3500 a  few years later as I was moving and didn't have the room for it. Luckily I have access to a 20" and 12" jointer within 5 minutes from me.

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   mapleman | Feb 16, 2007 08:18am | #8

   Hi Rick,

   I have checked out exfactory before. Great site for old iron. Very fair prices, but not many "great" deals that I have seen. Local is really out for me, as I am deep in the heart of BFE. It seems the really great deals on ebay are up north and out west in California, which makes the shipping cost prohibitive. Most individuals don't want to ship an item like a 1500# jointer anyhow. But I will keep looking, I know there is a $1750 oliver jointer out there for me somewhere.....

   Lee

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   hammer1 | Feb 16, 2007 07:36am | #7

   That looks like a much improved version of the one I had. The stand under the outfeed table is bumped out which probably improves dust collection. The table lock lever is much larger and out front. The depth lever is tipped towards the operator instead of being straight out. I also see a handle on the fence, I didn't have. The fence rails do stick out quite a ways behind the machine, almost doubling the floor space needed. A real classy work horse but a bit much to fire up for edging a 1x3.Beat it to fit / Paint it to match

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   philip | Feb 16, 2007 11:24am | #9

   Lee, that is what I call a decent machine-in the same league as SCM Invicible, Steton, Pinheiro etc. The only other studio furniture maker I know in New Zealand has that exact machine. Good and heavy. If you are satisfied that there are no latent defects keep tabs on it- being industrial and no light weight will exclude a lot of buyers and you may get lucky.Philip Marcou