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   dgreen | Oct 27, 2006 04:07am | #1

   Very nice saw. Adjustable at all wear points and built like a tank. The original Dewalt design, not to be confused with Black and Pecker Default. It is almost identical to the 1950's Dewalts with an updated motor with automatic brake and an improved guard. Should last you a lifetime.

   Omga also makes a good radial arm saw.

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    The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.
   -- Herbert Spencer (1891)

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   mudman | Oct 27, 2006 06:12am | #2

   I agree it is a great saw. They hold their vlaue well too. Depending on your needs (comercial use, imediate need, cost) some other considerations are getting the 14" model as it is a lot sturdier and accurate, and buying an old Dewalt or Delta. You can get a very nice old Dewalt GA or GE model for $500 to $700. If you don't mind rehabbing one you can get a "fixer upper" for $200.

    

   Pardon my spelling,

   Mike

   Make sure that your next project is beyond your skill and requires tools you don't have. You won't regret it.

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   philip | Oct 27, 2006 07:30am | #3

   Rehab,
   How about a picture or two? Might as well tell you that I am partial to real radial arm saws (not the light weight disasters), but I haven't heard of the type you mention.

   Philip Marcou
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   dgreen | Oct 27, 2006 11:24am | #4

   Here's a link. Not a lightweight saw.

   http://http://www.originalsaw.com/12_contractor.htm

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    The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -- Herbert Spencer (1891)

   Edited 10/27/2006 4:29 am by dgreen

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   philip | Oct 27, 2006 11:32am | #5

   Don, seems to be a mix up with the link- opens up to some stuff about http etc....Can you have another go?
   Great quote there....Philip Marcou

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   dgreen | Oct 27, 2006 11:32am | #6

   I'll give er a shot .... stand by

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    The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -- Herbert Spencer (1891)

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   dgreen | Oct 27, 2006 11:34am | #7

   http://www.originalsaw.com/12_contractor.htm------------------------------------

    The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -- Herbert Spencer (1891)

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   philip | Oct 27, 2006 11:37am | #8

   yup, looks promising....Thanks.Philip Marcou

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   dgreen | Oct 27, 2006 11:50am | #10

   Thanks again for the pictures of your shop.....I will post some of mine in the gallery as soon as it is clean enough! Sure enjoyed the pictures of your's .... still wiping drool off my chin... Hope to purchase one of your planes soon....just gave up my day job last January and had some unexpected expenses this year. No net gain or loss in the bank account so far. Counting myself lucky so far.

   Take care

   Don

   Edited to correct spelling!!

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    The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -- Herbert Spencer (1891)

   Edited 10/27/2006 5:07 am by dgreen

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   dgreen | Oct 27, 2006 12:06pm | #12

   Lataxe is a hell of a salesman although I am sure he will deny it.------------------------------------

    The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -- Herbert Spencer (1891)

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   dgreen | Oct 27, 2006 11:38am | #9

   It's an updated version of mine. Mine is 59 years old and still stands up to every day use.------------------------------------

    The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -- Herbert Spencer (1891)

   
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   philip | Oct 27, 2006 11:49pm | #13

   Don, Is there no way of reducing the amount of blade that is unguarded there? I may be wrong but it looks as though it could be made safer without reducing the crosscut length by much: if the fence were as high as the maximum cut, and moved forward a bit, there would be more blade behind the fence. Also I assume that the cover does not pivot round (forward), so if you extended the front of it down to the same height as the top of the fence, with the blade being pushed back behind the fence it is safer.
   I have known of accidents happening when the blade is not always pushed right back, and a hand is used to "just sweep that dust": if it is set up like I described one can't actually contact the blade .
   Just some thoughts . If you are unclear of what I am saying I can send a picture of mine.Philip Marcou

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   dgreen | Oct 28, 2006 12:17am | #14

   I installed an automatic return device so if you let go the saw returns home. The guard does rotate and is normally positioned so as to just clear the work. Original Saw Co. has a retro fit guard kit that I will be putting on soon. It has two link arms that guard the lower part of the blade. You are right about a taller fence farther forward being safer, but I was looking to maximize the crosscut capacity. I keep a bench brush near every saw and never put any body part in front of the blade. I also have compressed air at all the saws and if they are turning I use the air to clear the table. Thanks for the reminder to get the guard kit ordered!------------------------------------

    The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -- Herbert Spencer (1891)

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   philip | Oct 28, 2006 04:15am | #15

   There you go-some of us are cleverer than we think.Here's a picture of mine anyway- 14 inch blade, 2 proper horses and if the blade should get pinched and jam it does not climb back. Ugly, but consistantly accurate.Philip Marcou

   
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   Scrit | Oct 28, 2006 11:45am | #16

   Wilson? That's a very trad design. So which side of the pond are you on?

   Scrit

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   BruceS | Oct 28, 2006 06:21pm | #17

   I just had a customer in the Store the other day who offered me an Original Saw. I  Need a 15" planer or 18" Band saw more.   Didn't pay close enough attention on details.  Believe it was 5HP and 14" and the kicker was thats it's 3 phase.   He has two and wants to get rid of this one. He says it looks like new.   Located in Chardon, OH. area.  30 miles E of Cleveland.  I'll get more info if anybody is interested, Shoot me an E-mail via the options section.

   Work Safe,  Count to 10 when your done for the day !!

   Bruce S. 

    

   Edited 10/28/2006 11:23 am ET by BruceS

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   philip | Oct 28, 2006 11:59pm | #18

   Scrit- Wilson is/was British. Heavy industrial stuff-I don't know if they are still in existence. I got the saw in Zimbabwe and now it is here in New Zealand. Judging by the motor I would think it was made pre second world war.Philip Marcou

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   Scrit | Oct 29, 2006 12:04am | #19

   Zimbabwe - that explains it. Wilson Brothers were set-up in Leeds in 1851 and were in existence until the mid-1990s, their last new products included a CNC roofing truss saw. They also made a few other things such as static steam engines and even small railway engines in their time

    

   Scrit

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   philip | Oct 29, 2006 12:13am | #20

   Thanks, that is interesting. In fact the saw was owned by a big timber merchant (Plate Glass co) that also manufactured roof trusses.Philip Marcou

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   Scrit | Oct 29, 2006 12:38am | #21

   You can sometimes track the demise of machinery companies at auctions. A few years ago I went to an auction at a firm which had made hardwood doors. The oldest equipment was all Wilson, some it ir more than 60 yrears old and in dailky use, some of which I'd never seen anywhere else - single-end tenoners, spindle moulders, planer/thicknessers, bandsaws, crosscuts (no less than six of them), long stroke sanders, etc. A lot of newer stuff was Dominion, a firm from Halifax (about 12 miles from Wilson's home in Leeds) who'd made a full range much longer. Newer still was stuff from Wadkin (the firm which took over Dominion), whilst the newest machinery came from all corners of Europe....... Just makes you wonder if they had a particular relationship with one salesman or not

   Scrit

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    philip | Oct 29, 2006 12:49am | #22

    Scrit, you would have a field day here in NZ, where there has been a near 100% demise of the furniture making industry: machinery grave yards everywhere.
    I also have a Dominion surfacer/thicknesser combination....looks like my demise is imminent...Philip Marcou

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    mudman | Oct 29, 2006 02:51am | #23

    you are correct about raising the fence and moving it back. However I use my RAS for dados frequently. My Dado set is 10" so the fence is set for that. There are also very effective lower gaurds that do not get in the way. That is one of the advantages of the new saws, they have better gaurds.Pardon my spelling,

    Mike

    Make sure that your next project is beyond your skill and requires tools you don't have. You won't regret it.

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   dgreen | Oct 27, 2006 12:02pm | #11

   I looked at their saws at the AWFS show last year, have talked to a bunch of owners.... I saw no evidence of compromise in construction. I like the induction motor for the long jobs as opposed to a universal motor such as in my chop saw and SCMS. I have to do a lot of crosscutting on 1.75" material on a daily basis and it does it effortlessly.

   If I had to replace it I would consider the Omga but would probably lean towards the OSC.------------------------------------

    The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -- Herbert Spencer (1891)