I’m considering outfitting my shop with Grizzly machines. What does anyone know about the Grizzly 10′ LEFT-TILTING SUPER HEAVY-DUTY TABLE SAW G1023SL?
Also considering their 20″ planer G1033, 1 1/2 HP Shaper G1035, 2 HP Dust Collector G1029Z, 17″ H-D Bandsaw G0513, and the 8″X75″ Jointer G0500. All of these tools are advertised in the Dec/Jan issue of “BHG Wood” magazine.
After a long career in the military, I finally settled, built my shop and need to outfit it.
Any suggestions on these machines would be greatly appreciated.
Ken
PS. Thanks to those that sent me both plans, and ideas for a murphy bed. I’m going with the Rockler plan and hardware.
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Chinook,
The only item on your list that I'm familiar with is the G0513 bandsaw. I've had one since last August and have used it quite a bit for everything from 1/8" material to 12" resaw. In fact, I've begun to use it for a lot of ripping operations rather than my tablesaw. You won't be disappointed in the performance of the G0513.
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Bill Arnold - Custom Woodcrafting
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That's really good news. Thanks for the infomation. I've been hoping that since I'm planning to buy all those items from Grizzly that they'll give me a bit of a discount. I know two folks that have the shapers and they love them too.
Thanks again,
Chinook47 (Ken)
I recently purchased the G1023SL table saw after looking at it and some others that were much more expensive. So far I am very pleased and don't regret the decision at all.
Too bad you didn't buy before the 1st of the year as the price has gone up about $100.
bc
I'm arguing that same price right now with Grizzly. The Dec 04/January05 issue of Better Homes and Gardens Wood Magazine offers last years prices. Well, it is the January issue too. Advertising is advertising. I hope they agree, as I'm buying six machines.
Thanks for the information on your experience.
I've been exceptionally pleased with the G0500 jointer. Dead flat. The only hassle was lining up the extensions to the tables. They've fixed that by making the tables one-piece now.
Tech support is outstanding. I just got their horizontal line borer and there were issues with the casting for the table. They said to ship it back - no charge - and they will send out a new one. No questions asked.
Thanks for the information. I have now received good reports on most of what I'm looking to order. It does look like I may need to reconsider dust collection through. I may have to build a small addition outside if I go with the 1029Z. That would save room in my shop anyway. I just got my discount ifnormation form Grizzly. I was a bit disappointed. On a rather large order, they only discounted me $134.00. That's better than nothing, and with the reports I hear about them and their service, I'm happy with that.
Thanks again, Ken (chinook47)
Chinook, that's a pretty fun list! The one item I would change is the dust collector. The 1029Z dust collector filters down only to 2.5 microns. I'm partial to the canister models (much easier to clean) and the 2HP G0548 has the canister and filters down to 1 micron. Granted, it's $495 as opposed to $295, for for me the extra $200 would be well worth it. Since it's your money, it's a slam-dunk, LOL!
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Chinook -
As Jamie (Forest Girl) says, since it's your money I'll help enjoy spending it ....
Dust collection: Take a good look at the Grizz cyclone. I finally got mine up and running. I've got six machines/stations in my system. Everything is ducted with nothing other than ordinary 25ga sheetmetal HVAC ductwork. Joints are taped with duct tape for the most part but I have yet to add any blast gates on any of the machines. Even so, this thing is strong enough to work pretty effectively on every one of the machines! Granted, the bags are pretty course with respect to filtration but I have mine outside (under cover) so that's not an issue here.
Sounds like a great shop!!
From Beautiful Skagit Co. Wa.
Dennis
Dennis, they (Grizzly) also have cyclones with pleated filters attached (for those of us who might allow our DC's to live inside, LOL). Down to .2 micron. We're talkin' dough here, though. $745 for the 2HP unit.
Should I start building a "dog house" for my up-and-coming Jet canister DC??forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)Another proud member of the "I Rocked With ToolDoc Club" .... :>)
i've got a lot of griz machines, and they are all fine. I have the 20" shop fox with 5 hp motor (you need at least 5 hp with 20" wide) and just upgraded my 1 1/2 shaper to the 3 hp. I wouldn't buy the 1 1/2 with all the large equipment you are buying. Its got a pretty sloppy spindle, and is mostly for edging stuff. Are you going into business or hobby? 1 1/2 fine for hobby. Power feeders are real helpful on shapers. 2 cents worth.
Kelvin
Jamie -I 1)didn't want to lose the shop space, 2)was aware of the courseness of the bags on the Grizzly cyclone (actually the cannisters are something that's been added since I bought mine) and 3)wanted the noise outside. If you can, yes, I'd get the DC out of the shop. Means more ducting but carefully done it should work. I figgered with this monster the loss in static pressure from the added ductwork wouldn't be that big an issue. So far it's worked OK............
From Beautiful Skagit Co. Wa.
Dennis
I'm new to this forum, but am impressed by, and really thankful for it. Thanks Taunton Press, and thanks to all those that have, and will respond to my machine questions.
It looks like I may need to re-look the dust collection issue. I'm thinking about an addition to my shop now (outside). That would cost as much or more than upgrading from the 1029Z to something with better filtration, but it would save space inside my 24X36 work space. Still, canisters are easier to empty I suppose. These are fun decisions for me. I've been waiting years for the oportunity to settle down to one place so I can build and outfit a woodworking shop.
Again, thanks to all who responded. I'll make some decisions and let you know how it comes out. I have a feeling I'll be posting many more questions as I begin to install and put these machines to use.
Ken (chinook47) in SE Arizona
Ken, if you didn't notice it, see Kelvin's post addressed to me above. He makes a comment about the shaper. Enjoy your shop!forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)Another proud member of the "I Rocked With ToolDoc Club" .... :>)
Well after much time shopping around, reading magazines, communicating with dealers, visiting with other experienced woodworker relatives and friends and many extremely helpful responses from all of you great Taunton Press folks, I've made a decision.
I'm over-nighting a check Monday morning to Grizzly. I'm planning a small outside addition to my shop for the dust collection and adding to my 240 shop circuits. It looks like I'll be busy while things are being delivered. This is going to be fun! I've already got my first project lined up and will be shopping for a good deal on lumber soon. Since I'm in Southeastern Arizona, I may have to travel and pick up a whole unit to save some money.
Again, I thank everyone for all the most helpful information.
Ken (chinook47)
"This is going to be fun!" No kidding! Are you going to be able to sleep?!Enjoy Ken, you deserve it, and of course let us know how things go. Remember -- Grizzly's customer service is top-notch, so if you have any problems, give 'em a call right away.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)Another proud member of the "I Rocked With ToolDoc Club" .... :>)
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John
I built the Rockler Murphy about a year ago. Added cove molding and trim to the top improved the overall look. Over -all a satisfactory project works well
Glad to hear it. I'm thinking about modifying the plans a bit. I'd like to use lumber in stead of plywood for everything but the bed side rails. The plans say you must use ply there for the strength. Beyond that, I'm thinking about making four fourteen-inch wide raised panel doors rather than using the two 28 inch wide 3/4 plywood bed face panels. I've got to take a good look at that before I try. If that works, the rest should be pretty straight forward. Trying to find the quality of molding or cabinet grade pine that I want to use. I have the kit in the shop, but now am waiting for the machinery from Grizzly. I'm going to take my time and enjoy the project. The Murphy should be a good project to cut my teeth on with the new machines.
If you have any advice on using lumber for the project, please pass it on. I'd appreciate it much.
Thanks,
Ken (chinook47)
Rather than "finding the molding" suggest that you make your molding both cove and other using the table saw and router. You really "own" the project that way. Both woodsmith and finewoodworking have covered the issue in the recent past. if you can't find info let me know.
Have the table saw and love it. No problems and arrived after falling over in truck with no damage to saw.
Hi Ken. On a separate note you will probably want to get yourself a couple of machinist's squares, a accurate straight edge and some feeler gauges and a machinists rule. Your equipment only works as well as you set it up, and of coarse you need precision tools to do that. Sounds like you are going to have a lot of fun. Peter
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