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   Malcolm | Apr 23, 2006 03:22am | #1

   One of the related discussions is one I began in the General folder, called 'Making a market'. Edit: another is 'my first attempt at making a plane', thread 29480. in this folder.

   If I get some time tonight (noon Sunday in NZ as I type) I'll cut and paste the various threads to a Word document and make it available via my web site.

   Think about the purpose of a plane-makers' cyclopedia. To what end, who might contribute, how might it be 'refereed'. And, quite important, where would it live, and who would own the intellectual property? It could be quite valuable, and have significant commercial potential (advertising, for one thing).

   Cameron - one suggestion: how about restricting contributors to those prepared to put up  a say 100 word biography and some references? Make it something like an academic journal, where nothing gets published unless a respected panel or process first approves it? Thinking aloud!

   Malcolm

   Edit: this idea has enormous potential!

   http://www.macpherson.co.nz

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   C_R_Miller_Planes | Apr 24, 2006 09:45pm | #2

   As to where it would live I have plenty of space on the HC site if you want to use that? I've already set up some basic software for it to test things out. So far, so good.Personally speaking, I think that the intellectual property thing is pretty straightforward. It belongs to the people who write the article and it's used, on a commission basis, on the site in which it resides. If we were to pay for the articles - not an option really, and also not within the scope of what we're trying to achieve - then we would "lease" the copyright for XX number of years, in which copyright would then revert back to the original owner. I think it's best to just keep the copyright with the authors themselves and ask permission to use the material for whatever purpose afterwards.Then again, you're the ex magazine author, Malcolm, so you know more about this sort of stuff than me.Not sure how valuable it would be - monetary wise. I suppose you could get advertising from wood suppliers... possibly metal suppliers, but I'm not sure about anywhere else. Book publishers will probably hate us....If we're good enough. ;-)A "moderating panel" is a good idea - mainly to just "validate" basic stuff. As I said before, everyone has their own opinions on how to do things but, if the basic stuff is all there, there are many paths to the end result. Having some sort of biography and references for each of the panel members might add some significant weight to the overall project.As to who the moderators should be.... Well, first and foremost, they need to have a planemaking background - or at least have an good knowledge of hand planes and the creation of them. They don't need to know everything there is to know about hand planes (for example they can be specialized in one or two fields), but the more knowledge, the better.Just my initial thoughts anyway.

   Handplane Central

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   Malcolm | Apr 25, 2006 12:10am | #3

   Agreed. I don't think 'ownership' will be a problem, and your suggestion is sound. The main reason for sorting it out (and making it clear to contributors and users) is to avoid others hi-jacking the content. My own attitude is that putting material on the web is the same as leaving it lying in the street!

   I'm not claiming any management role here, Cameron - this should be an HC thing, if you're keen to pursue it, unless someone's got a better idea.

   'Value' will also resolve itself. On the web, value is directly related to visitor numbers, and a site that became recognised as THE source on contemporary handplane knowledge and references would attract a few eyeballs! Anyone marketing woodworking supplies would find that audience attractive.

   And it's probably expedient not to get too hung up on 'moderation', at least early on. Begin ning to build a body of work is the first step, not forgetting gthe need to be clear about purpose. The simplest approach is for someone to nominate themselves editor, and set up a web presence that begins to accumulate the contributions.

   Malcolm

    http://www.macpherson.co.nz

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   bugbear | Apr 27, 2006 04:10pm | #4

   What happened to Mick Doherty's version of this excercise,
   which was mainly organised on Badger Pond, but hosted
   (IIRC) on the old classicplanes site? BugBear

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   eddiefromAustralia | Apr 28, 2006 05:04am | #5

   Hi BB,

    

   I've got one chapter of the book, and I'm seeing if I can locate the other two.

    

   Best regards,

   eddie

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   WillGeorge | Apr 28, 2006 06:37pm | #6

   Only 'publishing' it as something like a Wiki.
   Is at my local McDonalds and I like Burger King MUCH better!

   cyclopedia ?? I thought it had a E at the beginnin' BUT then again I coulds nevers spells...

   
   

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