To anybody that has a suggestion,
I have a Rigid planer, lunch box style, and recently I’ve been surfacing some aged oak. I’ve noticed in the last few days that the planer is really slow, much slower than before, maybe by a factor of 10 sometimes. I’ve cranked it up so that I’m only removing a 32nd, if that. The knives are sharp, not brand new, but seemly sufficient. I’m not really creating dust, it is still shavings. The drive wheels seem to be clean and not slipping, and they turn at a consistent speed. The knives are tight, but I can hear what sounds like the chatter or rattle of something internal. I’ve checked everything I can easily get to including the motor brushes even though it didn’t seem like a brush issue. The drive belt to the knives seems to be tight. The planer is only 3-4 years old and I don’t use it a bunch.
Any thoughts, comments, or suggestions?
Thanks,
Adam
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How wide is the stock ? Now just for the fun of it get a piece of pine 1X2 and run it on the very outside edge of the planers capacity. Then run a piece down the middle. I'll bet you see a difference in performance. I'am thinking the knives are duller than you think, dull knives will "Chatter/Bounce" your noise, maybe.
Work Safe, Count to 10 when your done for the day !!
Bruce S.
Stock is 5-6" wide. When I run them I alternate where I run them. First on the left, then the middle, then the right, etc. All produce the same results. I'll run the pine and see what happens, but first I think I'll put a coat of wax on and see if that helps as it won't hurt anything and is almost free to do!
Thanks,
Adam
Did you get your problem fixed yet? If no, are you using an extension cord? If yes you could be causing a power drop from the motor due to the additional length of cord.
Haven't been back in the shop yet to try! That darn job thing!
I'm not using an extension cord though.
Thanks,
Adam
Try waxing the tables. I have had a lot of guys with problems such as your that went away after applying a light coat of wax to "slick up" the tables a little.
See the link below for a story we did on that subject because of the frequency at which we were hearing of this problem. It can happen on any planer.
http://www.newwoodworker.com/wxplrtbles.html
Tom Hintz
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Since you obviously use Knots, why don't you include this and other woodworking forums in the Links section of your web site?********************************************************
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I used to have a very complete listing of forums but I got lots of complaints from parents and educators about what was found on too many of them. I have lots of kids, families and educational facilities using my site and simply cannot police what is posted on too many forums. I realize that the Taunton group is very good at policing but if I do one, the demands from the others gets tiring and time consuming.Tom Hintz
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Interesting ...........Mind if I ask what the nature of the complaints were?Anything like that teacher who got fired because she took her fifth graders on a field trip to the Dallas Art Museum, and the kiddies were coincidentally exposed to some nude statues and a few bare breasts in the paintings as they walked through the galleries?********************************************************
"It is what we learn after we think we know it all, that counts."
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Too often forums have verbal fighting and more than the occasional thinly-veiled obscenities. None of that kind of thing is good for younger viewers. If it could be justified as part of woodworking it would be different but it can't.
Most of the education facilities (mainly one or two very dedicated educators at each facility) have developed lists of experienced woodworkers who field and answer questions for the instructors and students via email to fill that gap. It's kind of long way around but it works well, is safe in terms of content and several of the email-based instructors have begun doing more formal work with some of the schools.
Tom Hintz
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"...thinly-veiled obscenities.... if it could be justified as part of woodworking it would be different but it can't".<!----><!----><!---->
Now wait just one minute. I thought thinly-veiled (and even outright) obscenities were an integral part of woodworking. I learned to curse on a construction site and the therapeutic value in that cannot be overstated. Isn't it a law that you must curse at least one thing (project, tool, wood, weather, luck...) per day or you aren't really woodworking?<!----><!---->
Now, as my former boss would say....."Let's quit &%$# %$%#@# around and get back to &%#$%*& work as soon as %$%#@&* possible."<!----><!---->
K1500 out (with tongue planted firmly in cheek).
If wax might cause finishing problems, try the PTFE spray that is sold for lubricating woodowrking machine tables. I find it really makes a difference especially when using, for example, a shaper with strong hold-downs
All,
I've waxed my tables and that seemed to really help. Then 4 hours of planing later the blades needed changed anyway. So I changed the blades and wouldn't you know the first board I put through had metal embedded in it. Ouch, or not? Turns out it was a lead slug from a rifle which seems to machine nicely! No damage which is a relief!
Thanks to all for the suggestions. For your records waxing helped.
Adam
Oddly enough, I've heard from several people who have encountered bullets in wood. One knew a professor who is involved in a museum and showed the bullet remnants to him. The prof pointed out that there was no jacket, suggesting the bullet could be quite old, possibly from the Civil War period.
I cut down an aging oak in our yard a couple years ago and ran into a group of three lead projectiles, each roughly 3/8"-diameter near the center of the 24" piece of trunk I was cutting up. There was no jacket on or around any of them and with the depth, I wonder how long they have been there.
Tom Hintz
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I highly doubt that mine was that old. I have a hunch I know where it came from. The previous owners of our home like to keep things exciting! In fact the yield sign near the end of the road has about 38 holes in it. Of course the individual that was responsible for that is in jail now for other issues. I'm constantly finding empty cartridges in the yard and drive. I'm not quite sure why I was surprised at what I found in the wood now that I think of it!
Adam
Could have been from a .38 cal, recent issue. They aren't all copper clad.
"I cut this piece four times and it's still too short."
Very common, I've planed some #4 shot buried in oak. Some squirrel had an exciting day foraging for his nuts. I know what your thinking!!!Work Safe, Count to 10 when your done for the day !!
Bruce S.
I've never planed any bullets. Just a nail. Immediately after changing the knives.
"I cut this piece four times and it's still too short."
oak is always hard on knives i find , it is similar to running sand paper through
PS: i also have a ridgid and keep a spare set of knives for comparison also a spare set for my ridgit thickness planer
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