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   Midnight | Jun 16, 2005 11:27pm | #1

   what hardware are ya using Jack..??? I've had a project in mind for a while that'd use similar doors...

   Mike Wallace

   Stay safe....Have fun

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   jackhall | Jun 17, 2005 02:03am | #3

   I'd have to look at my notes when I get home.  The info was taken from a FWW article several years ago.  I'll look for the info tonight.

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   JHall | Jun 19, 2005 09:41pm | #13

   "what hardware are ya using Jack"

   I read an article in FWW #104 about pocket doors.  The author described 3 types: the Active Follower (cable system), the Pantagraph (scissors) type and the Rack and Pinion type.  He said the R&P was easily installed and adjustable for extremely accurate alignment.  The sources of supply given were Accuride, Blum, Hafele Amerca, and Knape & Vogt Manufacturing.  My doors will be about 18" wide by 51" high.  The cabinet is 21" deep. I also saw the "flipper door" hardware in the Rocker catalog.

   I was trying to find out if anyone had any hints or tips on installation of this kind of hardware.

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   mikegagne | Jun 20, 2005 09:12am | #14

   Those are the perfect size for Accuride flippers with followers. They need 3 inches inside the box for the follwers to seat. Note that the cable system is different from the followers. They are for relatively light cabinet doors which it sounds like you have. Follow the enclosed instructions and make note of the hinge options-Salice is the included product and there are overlay and inset options. I hope this is what you are looking for info wise. Aloha, Mike

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   jackhall | Jun 20, 2005 07:35pm | #15

   Thanks for the tips.  Good to hear from the experienced.  And I will use a mock-up.

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   papanick | Jun 16, 2005 11:30pm | #2

   give yourself a lot of time, and take your time. Use a mock-up door section to set the slides/followers so that you don't damage the door unnecessarily. (same thickness and height x about 8")

   Double check your measurements for the hinges. The hole isn't always 35mm, and the offset from the edge isn't always 5mm.

   I prefer the wire tensioned units, but the R&P work well if you make sure that they are parallel, square, etc.

   Best of luck.

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   jackhall | Jun 17, 2005 02:07am | #4

   Thanks for the idea of using a mock-up.

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   Jamie_Buxton | Jun 17, 2005 03:10am | #5

   Be aware that these systems need a cabinet which is 4-6" deeper than the door width -- if you want the door to slide all the way into the cabinet.

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   Dave45 | Jun 17, 2005 03:55pm | #6

   Do you mean flipper doors?  They're the kind that open, then slide back into the cabinet on each side of the TV.

   I use Accurride hardware for flipper doors with excellent results.  If you go to the Rockler website (http://www.rockler.com), you'll find several kinds of flipper door hardware and can download detailed instructions and spec sheets in pdf format.

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   jackplane | Jun 17, 2005 06:25pm | #7

   yep, i've used accuride flipper door hinges; they work great but do require extra side and rear clearance. 

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   mikegagne | Jun 18, 2005 09:25am | #8

   rack and pinion is primarily for heavy or large doors. Accuride with follower strips work or with cables works better. The scissors frame is the best for large/heavy doors as they glide best and maintain the best control over the door. Work carefully and use a mockup piece before setting up the doors. Once you have done one (whichever system you choose) you will be an expert. Aloha, Mike

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   jimstock1 | Jun 18, 2005 02:49pm | #9

   Jack-

   Accuride does make some nice, heavy duty products but here's another one:  Check out this website for Hafele products- http://www.hafeleonline.com go to the section on "sliding and roller shutter systems for furniture" and look for the "hawa-turnaway" pivot sliding door fittings.  We've (as architects) have used them on very large entertainment units and they have worked flawlessly.

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   Elcoholic | Jun 18, 2005 06:02pm | #10

   The ones they sell at Rockler are made by Shock.  If you need longer racks you can order them direct, as did a friend of mine.  He used them on an entertainment wall to enclose a 50" big screen.

   John O'Connell - JKO Handcrafted Woodworking

   The more things change ...

   We trained hard, but it seemed that every time we were beginning to form up into teams, we would be reorganized.  I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing; and a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while producing confusion, inefficiency, and demoralization.

   Petronious Arbiter, 210 BC

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   WillGeorge | Jun 18, 2005 11:18pm | #11

   Yank herer and Pocket doors slide into house walls!

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   lwj2 | Jun 19, 2005 06:01pm | #12

   They do down South too.Leon Jester