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   BG | Jan 23, 2009 08:39pm | #1

   John,
   Assuming your doing 24" deep cabinets with a face frame, wouldn't cutting it down the middle length wise work?..ie. 2'x8'

   
   

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   Edited 1/23/2009 12:39 pm ET by BG

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   johnkristoff | Jan 24, 2009 12:51am | #4

   Guys: Thanks very much. The 24 inch long cut will work out fine for my cabinet cases. In the future I'll lay things out on grid paper to make sure I can get everything I need without two much waste. I opted in this instance for the fast solution. You've been great. John

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   flairwoodworks | Jan 24, 2009 04:48am | #5

   John,A 2'x8' piece of plywood is also much easier to handle than a 4'x4' piece.Chris @ http://www.flairwoodwork.spaces.live.com(soon to be http://www.flairwoodworks.com)

    - Success is not the key to happines.  Happiness is the key to success.  If you love what you are doing, you will be successful. - Albert Schweitzer

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   crashj | Jan 27, 2009 12:48am | #15

   I agree that its easier to handle a 2x8, but for my small shop, I have my sheets ripped to 4x4. They fit perfectly in the back of my old SUV with the seats down, and when I go to cut them again, the 4x4 size is easier for me to crosscut on the table saw. I also get the grain pattern orientation I want with wider pieces. It is a hassle to load and unload, but we're not talking more than a few sheets at a time anyhow.
   Another plus of the 4x4 is it keeps expensive ply DRY and clean on the way home, as well as off my dash where an 8' length would have to sit.Edited 1/26/2009 4:51 pm ET by crashj

   Edited 1/26/2009 5:16 pm ET by crashj

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   pbibbo | Jan 27, 2009 10:34pm | #16

   If you get the 4x8 sheets just tie them to the roof of your suv or car. Drive slow on the way back.. it's no big deal. If you let the knuckle heads cut your wood as Home depot good luck. They always miss cut or use a bad blade to rip the wood.

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   crashj | Jan 27, 2009 11:24pm | #17

   Strapping full sheets on the roof would be ideal, but i have a roof rack and spare tire mounted up there in the way, and there's the issue here of snow, rain, and the cinders they spread on the roads for traction blowing around.
   A pickup truck would of course solve all those issues- but I'm stuck with what I have, for now.

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   BioHaz1906 | Jan 28, 2009 05:05am | #18

   "If you let the knuckle heads cut your wood as Home depot good luck. They always miss cut or use a bad blade to rip the wood. "

   For the few times that I have had to do it this way I have had no problems with the "knuckle heads"  You simply give them what you want cut and if they don't cut it correct then they get another piece out and redo it. 

   I feel much safer getting the people to cut the wood to size as opposed to putting it on top of a car and riding down the street with it. 

   Bio

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   jeffs | Jan 28, 2009 09:22am | #19

   Here (San Francisco Bay Area) it costs about $20 a day (a bit over that when all is said and done) for a rental pickup. When I have a bunch of wood to buy (I try to make fewer, larger runs) I rent a truck for a couple of hours. A bit of a hassle but the rental fee is a small percentage of the total cost of the day.

    

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   derixn | Jan 31, 2009 02:08am | #24

   From the Paladin discussion among you "old coots" I think it is obvious that the cowboys knew what they were doing when they wore high top boots.

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   SARGEgrinder47 | Jan 31, 2009 03:55am | #25

   Yeah.. and they hadn't invented sneakers or rubber hip waders then either so choices were limited. :>)

   Sarge..

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   derixn | Jan 31, 2009 09:25pm | #26

   SARGE we had the hip waders all right,  but did you ever try to get your leg up and over a horses back while wearing those things?

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   SARGEgrinder47 | Feb 01, 2009 03:41am | #27

   Nah... I used to have someone stand on the bank when I went trout fishing though.. and shout reminders not to venture into deeper water than the top of the waders. If one does.. there is a strong possiblity that a world diving record can be set and I don't mean from a platform.

   I suppose the solution to rubber hip waders and horse-back mount would be to trade in the horse for a Shetland Pony. They're a lot cuter anyway and don't require as much feed... :>)

   Sarge..

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   derixn | Feb 02, 2009 08:51am | #28

   You're right about the size and cute.  However, my experience with shetland ponies was not really good.  The one I rode  (and her colt) could and did turn her head back and bite your leg enough to keep your attention.

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    SARGEgrinder47 | Feb 03, 2009 03:24am | #29

    Yep... they are what I refer to as "cold weather" animals. They can be a bit "nippy" on occasion. :>)

    Sarge..

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   MikeHennessy | Jan 23, 2009 11:48pm | #2

   Go to Home Depot and rent their flat bed. It'll be worth the $50 or so several times over. Or get the ply from a yard that delivers - usually about the same price. No matter how you cut the ply (unless you have a good cutlist first), you're bound to have a few parts you can't make out of your pieces.

   Mike Hennessy
   Pittsburgh, PA

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   Eef | Jan 23, 2009 11:50pm | #3

   hey john,

   what bg's telling you, i've had to do many times.  2'x8' gets it.

   good luck with your kitchen.

   eef

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   bones | Jan 24, 2009 06:34pm | #6

   Do you have a hitch?  If so, look for a friend with a pull behind or a uhaul.  I really miss my pickup and I'm looking to get a pull behind just for this purpose.  I'd like to buy a pickup but times are tough.

   Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases:
   If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it.
   And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
   
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   SARGEgrinder47 | Jan 24, 2009 07:55pm | #7

   Times are tough.. I'm glad I had two pick-ups before they got that way!

   Have Pick-ups.. Will Travel.... reads the card of a man.....

   Sorry.. just bored as waiting on finish to cure... :>)

   Paladin...

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   bones | Jan 25, 2009 01:21am | #8

   Is that like have gun will travel?   Sorry, only us old coots will even know that that was.  (good guys do wear black)Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.

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   SARGEgrinder47 | Jan 25, 2009 06:11am | #9

   You must be an old coot to remember something as old as"Have Gun.. Will Travel. I think my great.. great grand-father mentioned an old TV Show that had that name? And Palladin (the guy on the show) had it printed on his business card according to my great.. great grand-father. That was way before a young coot like me's time.

   Have gun will travel.. reads the card of a man

   A knight without armor in a savage land..

   Palladin.. Palladin.. where do you roam?

   Pallidan.. Palladin.. far, far from home!

   I must be mystic and returned to my great.. great grand-fathers day for a sudden moment.... :>)

   Sarge..

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   Tinkerer3 | Jan 25, 2009 09:50am | #11

   Is you stretching the truth just an eety bitsy bit?  I suspect that in your case, you might be your own grandpa.

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   SARGEgrinder47 | Jan 25, 2009 07:48pm | #13

   "Is you stretching the truth just an eety bitsy bit?  I suspect that in your case, you might be your own grandpa".... Tinkerer

   Now surely Tink, you don't think a southern boy would stretch a tale a little to simply get a chuckle.. do you?

   OK.. OK.. so I was an adviser on the Have Gun.. Will Travel show and taught Palladin and his combatants how to quick draw. I learned the trade when I used to hang out with Billy.. Wyatt and Sundance a few years back. ha.. ha... ha.. ha..ha..

   Regards...

   Sarge..

   P.S. thank God I got wax on a couple of small boxes last night so I can get started with something serious tomorrow that will keep me busier and off this computer telling tale tales... It's boring not having a major project working.

    

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   KiddervilleAcres | Jan 29, 2009 03:17pm | #20

   bones,

   Huh, old coots eh?

   I'll have you know I'm not an old coot, well mebbe and old phart.  :-)

   Richard Boone. played Paladin back in '57.

   Only old coots or old pharts would remember his horses name.  Oh Ray, are you out there?

   Regards,

   Bob @ Kidderville Acres

   A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!

   Edited 1/29/2009 7:19 am ET by KiddervilleAcres

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   bones | Jan 29, 2009 09:14pm | #21

   "Rafter"

    

   (I'll come clean and admit I did not know but looked it up)

   But I'll aske you one I do know. 

   When he's in San FRan and walking around he has a signature article that he has with him when walking around.  What is it!

    

    Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.

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   KiddervilleAcres | Jan 30, 2009 02:15am | #22

   Not sure but am gonna guess it was his cane with the silver knight handle.  He dressed like a dandy when staying at the Carlton but wore black on the job.

   Then of course there was Hey You and Hey Girl (for a short time).

   Great show, being well aged I do remember watching the show in black & white.  Wont no color sets then, back in '57.

   Regards,

   Bob @ Kidderville Acres

   I edited this as I roiginall had sliver white knight - Duh!

   A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!

   Edited 1/29/2009 6:17 pm ET by KiddervilleAcres

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   bones | Jan 30, 2009 02:57am | #23

   You are a winner ding ding ding!!!!

    

   Loved that show!   My folks did not have a color tv.  Matter of fact, my dad had all kinds of tv's that were given to us that had various problems.  It was a riot watching one and listening to another.  Every now and then the Horizontal hold would go wacky and you would have to adjust to get it back.   And that was to watch the two chanels you could pick up on rabbit ears.  Times that changed.  I also remember a song from my teen years 57 channels and nothing on.  Now its hundreds of channels. 

   Take care.Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.

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   BioHaz1906 | Jan 25, 2009 06:16am | #10

   I must agree with some of the other posters when they say cut it down the middle width wise.  The irony is that I find my big box stores fairly empty now with the current economy, and when I go in and it isn't that busy they'll actually cut everything to size for me if I bring a cutlist in at not extra charge.  It is MUCH easier getting a chopped up 4x8 sheet into a basement shop through your kitchen than the other way :)

   Bio

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   YesMaam27577 | Jan 25, 2009 05:00pm | #12

   Before you even buy the plywood, you should have a cut list of all of the pieces/parts that you will be making. Look at that list, and you'll quickly find that all of the sides and backs of the base cabinets are the same height, and that the same is true with (most of) the uppers.

   Depending on your method of building the toe-kick, all of the bases will have 30" tall sides and backs, or they will all have 34-1/2" sides and backs. (I always try to build the toe kicks separately, since I can get 3 side-lengths from one sheet that way, instead of just two the other way. And the toe-kicks/bases can be made from offcuts, or from cheaper ply, then painted black.)

   The height of the uppers depends on each cabinet's overall height -- but there will be a pattern in those, just like there is a pattern in the bases.

   Using that information, you can decide how to have the big box store slice up the ply.

   Oh -- one more thing -- be sure to incorporate grain direction in this thinking.

   Politics is the antithesis of problem solving.
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   TaunTonMacoute | Jan 27, 2009 12:45am | #14

   Most dealers offer delivery on the amount of plywood needed to build a set of kitchen cabs. If yours doesn't find somebody else.

   Don't buy material from big box stores. Most plywood dealers would rather just bring it to you (their trucks run all day long) than have you give them a bleedin' cut list.

   
   

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   Edited 1/26/2009 4:54 pm ET by TaunTonMacoute