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   SteveSchoene | Dec 14, 2005 08:04am | #1

   I have used the Behlen Por-O-Pac oil based filler.  It comes very thick--almost like putty on my last can, and should be thinned with mineral spirits or naptha until almost like heavy cream.  I generally tint it with artists oil paint.  Most advise suggests applying it over a wash coat of dewaxed shellac.  It should also be applied after any dye coloring. 

   You didn't mention what wood you were using.  I like the pore filler for formal finishes on walnut or mahogany.  Oak pores are so large that it is hard to fill them--two coats, and frankly I don't much like the look of a full finish on oak.

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   pzgren | Dec 14, 2005 07:22pm | #2

     I've used BLO and 4F pumice to fill the pores on red oak (It was top coated with several coats of tung oil.). It gives a semi-antique patina kind of color to the wood.

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   WillGeorge | Dec 16, 2005 10:17pm | #3

   Just me so.. I bee rong before...

   Not sure how large of a surface you want to do.. I have used shellac and the sawdust from the wood.. Blender makes it really fine dust.. Mix in the shellac and wipe away!

   
   

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   Edited 12/16/2005 2:19 pm by WillGeorge

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   jazzdogg | Dec 18, 2005 10:56pm | #4

   The Enduro brand pore filler available through http://www.compliantspraysystems.com is a dream to use.

   I've also successfully used Rockler's Wonderfil water-based putty as pore filler after watering it down a tad.

   Among the oil-based, I've had good luck with Star brand.

   Good luck,

   -Jazzdogg-

   "Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come alive, and go do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive." Gil Bailie

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   Yogi | Dec 19, 2005 12:18am | #5

   Thank you-  These products are applied before staining?

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   jazzdogg | Dec 19, 2005 01:49am | #6

   "These products are applied before staining?"

   Hi Yogi,

   The application sequence depends on the results you're trying to acheive, e.g., when I tint the pore filler, I may want the coloration to be limited to the pores, so I'll seal the wood before filling the pores; on the other hand, if I want a uniform look, I may stain after filling the pores.

   I've attached a snapshot of a finishing test piece in which one quadrant of a piece of oak ply has the pores filled with red-tinted pore filler. In this case, I didn't want the red anywhere but in the pores, so I sealed before filling.

   Good luck,-Jazzdogg-

   "Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come alive, and go do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive." Gil Bailie

   
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   Yogi | Dec 19, 2005 02:16am | #7

   Need the filler be tinted, or can I go over it with a pigment stain?  Thanks again-

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   jazzdogg | Dec 19, 2005 04:37am | #8

   Either way works. Just pay attention to the ingredients of the pore filler, stain, and top coat to ensure compatibility as you normally would.-Jazzdogg-

   "Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come alive, and go do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive." Gil Bailie

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   Yogi | Dec 19, 2005 07:06am | #9

   I know I'm kinda working you over here, and I appreciate your help-  My buddy says I can use the filler over stain, so long as it's oil over oil-  Yes no?  Much obliged-

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   jazzdogg | Dec 19, 2005 07:16am | #10

   I'm glad to help. Your friend is correct.

   We are lucky to have a bona-fide finishing expert among us by the name of Paul Snyder; he's provided lots of valuable finishing information here on Knots, in the pages of Fine Woodworking magazine, and at his website. I think it's: http://www.furniturefinishwizard.com

   You can find his previous posts using the search function.

   Additionally, there's lots of useful finishing information available at Jeff Jewitt's website http://www.homesteadfinishing.com

   Good luck,-Jazzdogg-

   "Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come alive, and go do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive." Gil Bailie

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   Yogi | Dec 19, 2005 11:21am | #11

   Thanks again-