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   bob_barnett | Aug 06, 2009 06:14pm | #1

   http://www.woodenboat.com/forum/

   Try searching this forum

   Bob

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   manchuian | Aug 06, 2009 06:34pm | #2

   Thank you Bob ,that's a start .
   Christopher Ogden

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   daverichards | Aug 06, 2009 07:25pm | #3

   The folks on the WoodenBoat Forum might have some ideas for you so Bob's suggestion is a good one.

   Here are a few things that come to mind after a quick think. Since it will be on a boat, rounded corners would be a good idea and the case needs to be strong enough to support someone if they fall against it.

   How does the client want to gain access to the interior of the chest? How wide is the chest to be? I assume it'll be placed between two settees?

   A fiddle around the edges is a good idea. You might want to consider a fiddle around the top when in the closed position as well. Any thoughts about how to support the leaves when they are open? I have some thoughts on that but a drawing would communicate them better.

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   manchuian | Aug 06, 2009 11:05pm | #4

   Thanks Dave,
   I thinking the best way of opening would be like the older Kennedy tool boxes if that paints a picture of what I would like to do ,that would double the surface area of the top . Am I being clear on this ? Not sure how to maintain org surface area lid is hinged open ,perhaps a recessed panel that could be removed to gain access for storage . I would love to see a thumbnail and use that for a base line .
   Thank you christopher ogden

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   daverichards | Aug 06, 2009 11:12pm | #5

   Christopher, I'll think on it. The challenge is going to be having a fiddle all the way around when the leaves are open and still have the center section at the same height.Have you any idea of the dimensions of the box?

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   manchuian | Aug 06, 2009 11:23pm | #6

   Dave ,
   I am basing size on "oversize" shipping trunk .
   37" in length ,22" in width ,and 25" in height . Nothing craved in stone ,just some guild lines. Excuse my ignorance,but the only fiddles I know have strings .
   Thanks christopher

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   daverichards | Aug 06, 2009 11:41pm | #7

   Fiddle is the proper name for that raised part around the edge of a table, counter or shelf on a boat.We'll see if I can come up with anything. Might take a couple of days.Dave

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   daverichards | Aug 06, 2009 11:55pm | #8

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   manchuian | Aug 07, 2009 01:57am | #9

   yes sir ...will do

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   daverichards | Aug 07, 2009 03:55am | #11

   Alright, Chris. this is extremely rough but it'll give you an idea of the geometry. I went slightly taller overall because there needs to be some knee room. There's not much room to get knees in under the leaves when they are opened. You might want to have a talk with the client. I would also suggest measuring the space where they intend this to sit to get a more accurate idea of what you can build.What kind of a boat is it? Is this table going to be used for meals? Could the top stow elsewhere and be brought out when needed? This isn't an uncommon thing to do. What are they thinking about for access to the items stored inside the chest? Drawers? Where? Opening lid?

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   Edited 8/6/2009 8:56 pm ET by DaveRichards

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   James R. | Aug 07, 2009 05:38am | #12

   Dave:Good rough plan. I like the winged top, with some sort of support. I still think leg room may be a problem unless this is some wide boat. Good start though.Jim

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   daverichards | Aug 07, 2009 01:09pm | #13

   Jim, Thank you. I agree about the leg room issue. We'll have to see what chris says about the size of the boat and how the table is to be used.

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   manchuian | Aug 07, 2009 03:12pm | #14

   Thank you guys
   I am going to stop by his slip this morning and get a feel for the space, and chair/bench heights . Should have had all that info,I'm on it .
   chris

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   SteveSchoene | Aug 08, 2009 12:14am | #15

   By the way, if the wood is teak, just be aware that "shorts" around here (CT) go for $20 or so per board foot. 

   Also be aware that the place where you anchor your "box" will have no actually flat or square surfaces. 

   And, as has been mentioned, boat stuff must be STURDY.  It must arrest the fall of a full size adult falling from the absolute outside of the boat.

   Drawers are really hard to get to work well since they must stay in place when the boat leans 30° (common on sail boats, rarer, but still possible on power boats -- I've been on a 446 ft. long, 62 ft wide vessel when it rolled more than 45° from vertical, ie. an arc of over 90°.)  Relying on crew members to work a latch to close a drawer is the same as dumping the drawer to the deck.  Crew will open latches, closing must be pretty much automatic. 

    

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   manchuian | Aug 08, 2009 01:14am | #16

   Hi all That you for all this input . The home of this project will be a 41' Mainship if I got the name right .He tells me it rarely if ever leaves the marina . Dave, the and dimensions are perfect ,however he would like to be able to flip open the whole top portion to gain access to the beverages which is what he will be storing inside . I know that the top will then have to be made somewhat "monolithic" with various hardware.So I'm clear the top that contains the table would be in the lid of the trunk so to speak and the lid would open just like a trunk .
   I will try and manipulate Dave's' rendering if I can figure it out .
   Thank much chris

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   James R. | Aug 07, 2009 02:21am | #10

   Chris:

   Will people sit on each side of this storage table and if so what about leg space? Making the top so it slides when open to allow equal overhang on each side might be a consideration.

   Good luck, Jim