I have always enjoyed reproducing wood work for the many older houses in my area . The craftsmen of the turn of the century did wonders with what they had to work with .
This old house , is being restored and they finally got to the parts they can’t do them selves . The bannister is missing a few of the small turnings and the big Finial on top of the landing . The plinth blocks get the mop board butted to them .
From another source , and because I am so lucky ,
The circle molding is from the footboard of a bed , a dog chewed the rest .
not really sure how I’m going to make it ?
dusty
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oldusty
Have the dog regurgitate it and reassemble the pieces...
Sorry, I couldn't help myself.
The turnings seem straight forward. You are fortunate to have enough dog chew reject to make a shaper knife to suit...or a table router knife. Enjoy. It looks like a fun challenge which I am sure you are well equipped to handle. JL
jean,
Yah, or he could saw out a ring and glue it to a sacrificial faceplate with paper in the glueline, and turn a new one, to replace or repair the one the dog munched on.
Ray
It's an idea Ray
The only problem I can imagine would be where the ring becomes short grain across the face of the moulding. It would be very fragile. Cutting parts with a knife shaped to the moulding and orienting the pieces with the grain of the stock would be stronger...though your idea would be more elegant as a finished product, if it survives the manufacturing/installation process. JL
My initial thought was a combination of yours and Ray's. I'd lay up a segmented ring and attach it to the lathe, then turn. This eliminates the short grain problem and allows me to use a machine that I do have and not have to go out and purchase a shaper that I don't have. I believe that dusty has posted here regarding the use of shapers a few times, so he undoubtedly has one or two. Hey..... maybe we can start a betting pool on which way he'll go. better not..... he'd come up with something no one else thought of and take the money himself
hiya sapwood and All ,
Well , My first thought was to cut the circle and use a variety and combination of router bits on the router table , detail up side down . As long as each bit has a bearing on it this could work if no bearing then a Vee or semi circle shaped fence could be used .
I also thought about gluing it to a backer board and attach a face plate and turn it on the lathe .
I thought about the short grain and grain orientation and thought about a glue up but ,,,, the joints would be butted end grain and could be a weak point unless I scarf the joints with a much longer seam ?
I suppose I could sharpen up the old carving tools and simple carve it , Lee would .
thanks guys , keep the ideas coming
btw : the regurgitations were no longer available , and I'm not sure if the yard has been picked up yet .
dusty
dusty
Starting on a router table with the bits you have, you could then finish with a steel scraper, modified to the proper profile, and really impress Lee. Here I assume that you do not want to build yourself a moulding plane for this 1 off project. (now THAT would impress everyone on this forum, including some you haven't met yet)
Long skives will take care of some of the cross grain issues, but will it work aesthetically becomes the question? By gluing up the ring in, say, 4 pieces, you can incorporate the joints and grain orientation into a symmetrically pleasing pattern. JL
JL ,and All
The circle is about 7 1/2" diameter on the outside and 7/8" wide and about 5/8" tall . Will a molding plane make that tight of radi ?
Not only would grinding a cutter be time consuming but ,, think about it , a shaper cutter has the detail on the side , imo this was not the way the piece was made , nor would it lend itself to that method easily .
I do not have the ability to make router cutters .
I just didn't want the glue joints like a picture frame in end grain .
You know ,,, it could almost be done with a scraping bead scratch type of thang .
A custom router bit with a bearing could do it half at a time , hmmm .
regards dusty
dusty
If the moulding plane body is made to the radius you describe, yes it will...You may be able to mount a shaped scraper in a smaller spoke shave, and correct the rough cuts you make with hand gouges. You are only looking at about 24" of moulding. JL
JL ,
If I slice off a piece and send it to you , could you or would you knock it out for me ? " a nod is as good as a wink to a blind horse "
regards dusty
dusty
Being a blind horse, I can't tell if you are nodding, winking or pulling funny faces. JL
JL , All of the above .
Why not go with turning .But turn a groove in the back side and inlay a plywood ring.That would strengthen the short grain .Baltic birch ply and stain to match.If the ring is mahogany the back of luan ply might be a good match
Hi jako ,
So , do you mean mount the blank to a backer board , then cut a groove , then make a plywood ring to fit in the groove , then turn it around and re glue to a backer board and turn the actual detail ???
thanks for the reply
dusty
Yes, Except that I would not use paper and glue the second time .I would turn either a jam chuck (a good use for MDF if you have DC on the lathe) or as I have cole jaws, use them to grab either the inner, (on expansion) or the finished outer edge ,(on compression). I just turned 30 three inch cafe curtain rings with a 2 inch hole in walnut.It was a similar job but not so ornate. I do a lot of restoration / architectral work and if I can be of any more help let me know Tuesday as the computer is out of commission wed and thur
sapwood
Of course you know that as long as you have a router that accepts a half inch shaft router bit, mounting it up side down in a home made rig gives you most shaper capabilities for the 1 off types of projects we usually do in a home shop. JL
Gosh, really? Will it also work if I don't have my shop in my home?
It will even work in your vehicle, if you have the power source, young fella. :-) JL
"... young fella" Boy, you must be really old!
...and some days older than others.
The verdict has not yet come down on today. JL
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