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   BobSmalser | Apr 05, 2004 08:38pm | #1

   Dunno the company...you might check what older Sargent panes were marked with....but Highland Hardware has a complete line of Record-Stanley parts and knobs that likely can be adapted.

   “When we build, let us think that we build forever. Let it not be for present delight nor for present use alone. Let it be such work as our descendants will thank us for; and let us think...that a time is to come when those (heirlooms) will be held sacred because our hands have touched them, and that men will say, as they look upon the labor and wrought substance of them, ‘See! This our father did for us.’ “ --John Ruskin.

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   dirtstirrer | Apr 05, 2004 09:24pm | #3

   Bob,

   I think the older Sargents were marked VBM.  I didn't know that Highland carried the Stanley parts, thanks for posting that.  Steve

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   fgnoel | Apr 05, 2004 09:50pm | #4

   I will attempt to post a picure.  In the meantime I notice that the plane  blade is marked "Fulton" . I did a search and found quite a bit of information on "Fulton" Planes.  However, I don't know if the blade is original to the plane.  I'm confused by the BVS Co. designation.

   Frank

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   PlaneWood | Apr 06, 2004 02:55am | #5

   Frank -

   From your description I could not tell if those markings were on the inside or the outside of the plane.  If on the outside, then it may be the stamp of a previous owner.  I'm not aware of a plane maker called BVS, but there have been gazillions of companies in the past that manufactured planes.

   And, yes, I do make and sell handles and knobs for planes.

   PlaneWood by Mike_in_Katy (maker of fine sawdust!)PlaneWood

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   JimW | Apr 10, 2004 08:01am | #18

   Hey, I just saw your Totes and Knobs for sale on Ebay the other day...Butternut if I remember right.  Anyway, beautiful work, I will have to us your examples whenever I decide to create new one's for my recent Stanley purchases.Jim

   Coventry Woodworking

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   dirtstirrer | Apr 05, 2004 09:22pm | #2

   Frank,

   Any chance you could post a photo of your plane?  That name is not one that I'm familier with, but a photo would definatly help ID it.  As for knobs, I bet that Planewood (he posts here) would have one, or could make one.   

   Steve
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   shopdoc | Apr 06, 2004 05:12am | #6

   Frank,      Check post #17106.4.      Steve

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   fgnoel | Apr 06, 2004 05:53pm | #7

   I've attached a picture of the plane as one of you suggested.  The handle is missing from the plane since I am working on its restoration, but I have included a picture of it as well.  One of the pictures shows the stamp beneath the frog that I mentioned on the earlier post.

   One other question.  I need a bolt for the handle.  I believe it is called a tote bolt.  It is the bolt that goes in from the top of the handle to screw onto the rod that goes through length of the handle.  I am having a hard time finding one at the local stores; Home Depot and Woodcraft.  Anyone know where I might find one of these?

   Thanks

   Frank

   
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   PlaneWood | Apr 06, 2004 08:27pm | #8

   Frank -

   I've passed those pics onto Charles Koll in San Antonio.  He has a very large collection of planes of all kinds.

   It looks like an older #5 made by Stanley.  They did make planes for other wholesellers.  

   See below - the 2nd from the left frog receiver design was made ca. 1874-1902.

   View Image

   PlaneWood by Mike_in_Katy (maker of fine sawdust!)PlaneWood

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   dirtstirrer | Apr 06, 2004 10:30pm | #12

   Mike,

   I don't think its Stanley made personally.  The frog bed is slightly different then any Stanley I know of.  I just took a Union #5 apart, and it is identical to the second from the left plane.  That tote certainly looks Fulton like to me, and linked with the Fulton iron, and the one owner heritage, makes me lean Fulton.  Those markings though, Bailey Victor Stanley prototype perhaps???Steve

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   PlaneWood | Apr 07, 2004 12:00am | #13

   Yeah, hard to say. Frog receiver doesn't exactly look like Stanley.

   I'll keep prying around and see what turns up.

   Frank, I have the rods and brass nuts for Stanley.  But, they are 12-24 theads.  What are yours and how long does the threaded rods have to be?  Is it two piece or one piece on yours?   Several other plane manufacturers used a solid bolt with a oval head on top.

   Email me at [email protected]

   PlaneWood by Mike_in_Katy (maker of fine sawdust!)PlaneWood

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   fgnoel | Apr 07, 2004 06:11pm | #15

   I have the threaded rod for the handle.  I just need the top nut.  I believe the rod is 10-24, but not sure.  I will check tonight.

   Thanks

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   fgnoel | Apr 08, 2004 07:19pm | #16

   The rod is #10-24 and is threaded on both ends.  Its overall length is 4 inches.  I ordered a nut and screw for the rear handle from Highland Hardware, but the description on its website was  very brief so I really don't even know if its going to fit my plane, but the price was only 2.99 so I figured the risk was worth it. 

   If it doesnt fit do you have something that might?

   Frank

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   PlaneWood | Apr 06, 2004 08:32pm | #9

   Well, here's what Charles said -

   "Hi Mike, can't say that I recognize the plane. The letters don't ring a bell. The frog base looks a lot like an early Sargent.  I believe the early Sargent planes didn't always have a number stamped on them, but I couldn't bet a nickel on that. Some of the later Union planes also had similar frog bases. I'd say your guess is as good as mine. "

   ???????????

   PlaneWood by Mike_in_Katy (maker of fine sawdust!)PlaneWood

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   fgnoel | Apr 06, 2004 08:48pm | #10

   Thanks for your help and interest.  This has been a fun project.  An while it would be nice to know more about this plane I guess it is not critical.  I am restoring it for two reasons:  Sentimental; it was my father-in-law's years ago.  My wife is 57 and she thinks he used it before she was born, and secondly I intend to use it.  The blade is somewhat pitted and difficult to sharpen so it will probably need to be replaced.  (also I sure would like to know where I can get one of those "tote bolts" for the handle if anyone knows.)

   Frank

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   Mackwood | Apr 07, 2004 12:39am | #14

   Frank,

   Don't try to use a standard thread bolt whatever you do!  Stanley had an obsession for using nothing but non-standard screws, bolts, etc.  I've seen lots of threaded holes buggered up by well meaning folks trying to use a standard screw or bolt that was "real close". 

   In addition to Highland Hardware; WoodCraft carries a line of those common replacement parts.  If you're in the Seattle area, Hardwicks down by the U-District has them as well (4??? Roosevelt Way NE).

   Nice looking plane! 

   Regards,

   Mack"WISH IN ONE HAND, #### IN THE OTHER AND SEE WHICH FILLS UP FIRST"

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   BobSmalser | Apr 06, 2004 10:07pm | #11

   Good job.

   Al the parts...including the tote's bolt, are available at Highland Hardware.“When we build, let us think that we build forever. Let it not be for present delight nor for present use alone. Let it be such work as our descendants will thank us for; and let us think...that a time is to come when those (heirlooms) will be held sacred because our hands have touched them, and that men will say, as they look upon the labor and wrought substance of them, ‘See! This our father did for us.’ “ --John Ruskin.

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   PlaneWood | Apr 08, 2004 09:08pm | #17

   Mine are 4.25" long.

   PlaneWood by Mike_in_Katy (maker of fine sawdust!)
   PlaneWood

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   [email protected] | Sep 27, 2014 06:15pm | #19

   I just bought the same hand plane today with the same B.V.S. lettering and the blade was labeled "Bolton".

   It cost me $5.00 and is in pretty rough conditon but should be useable.