Hello all,
I have a Porter Cable 7518, 3 hp router. It is mounted in a Master lift and is powered with a well wired dedicated 20 amp circuit.
The other day I was raising a stack of MDF panels at 12000 RPM (yes I know most use 10,000 RPM but the bits all say 12,000 and I get better results). I was taking a pretty heavy cut (basicly I raised them in two passes with the second pass being a fairly light cut), however MDF cuts easily and I really dont think I was running it harder than in the past, but I was moving pretty fast. Any way I was feeding and listening to the motor to keep the RPMs consistant, if that makes sense. After three or four panels the router sort of turned off. I thought I may have triped a breaker or overloaded the motor, but then I saw the motor was still running slowly and very quietly. It was as if it was idling or something, and again it was really quiet. I turned it off then back on and it returned to its proper speed, but half way through the next cut it did it again. This happened 3 or 4 times and after the first time I slowed the speed down to 10,000 RPMs. I also tried changing the speed selector to get it to resume its proper speed, but only turning it off would work.
I have sinse used it fora few hours making lighter roundover and profile cuts with no issues. I supose I over heated the motor but it didn’t turn off it just ran very slow. Does any one know if that is what a 7518 does when it is over loaded.
Thanks for reading.
Pardon my spelling,
Mike
Make sure that your next project is beyond your skill and requires tools you don’t have. You won’t regret it.
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Mike,
Two good possibilities:
1. The symptoms sound like the speed control failing but first check the brushes. Most brushes have a mark on them to show the wear limit. The brushes probably started out around 3/4" long. If they're down to 3/8" or so, or are close to the wear mark, or if the mark is gone, the brushes need to be replaced. They also need to be replaced if they are burnt and crumbling or if the copper pigtail to the brush is damaged, loose, or burnt off. If the brushes are good, then the second possibility is the most likely cause.
2. The speed control is failing, which can generate any number of erratic symptoms similar to what you are describing. Often the controls will act up when they get very hot and will be fine when they have cooled off, which would also match your experience. If dust blocked cooling air from reaching the module, which can get blazing hot under a heavy load, that may have caused the overheating and the malfunction. It is possible that you haven't done any permanent damage to the control if it just overheated from lack of cooling, but it is more likely that the part is failing and will have to be replaced. On most routers replacing the control is a fairly simple job.
John White, Shop Manger, Fine Woodworking Magazine
Thanks John,
I think that you are likely on to something. I thought that I burned out the speed control completely when it happened the first time, but after restarting it ran correctly.The router does get very hot. I keep the cabinet open and have a box fan blowing from behind me into the cabinet, but it still gets hot enough that I can't leave my finger on the motor housing. I have a profesional shop and I think that I am stretching the limits of a router table set up. Pardon my spelling,
Mike
Make sure that your next project is beyond your skill and requires tools you don't have. You won't regret it.
I have no where near the knowledge that John and others have, but the first thing I'd do is to blow out any dust just as a basic maintenance step. MDF has extremely fine silt.
I have not seen this behavior in mine, but then I have not tried that heavy a cut. This may sound to simplistic, but try calling the tech services line.
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Call the tech line?! That is way too easy. Surely there must be more complicated fixes....Friends don't let friends call the help line! LOL!... ;-)
I know I broke the man-code sorry. Thirty lashes with a wet noodle.
You got it Scott. I have never been able to get the tech guys to argue wuth me about some assinine detail. So I prefer to bring my delimas to this valuable forum where I can recieve knowlage and experience whos depth has no limit.
heh hehPardon my spelling,
Mike
Make sure that your next project is beyond your skill and requires tools you don't have. You won't regret it.
A pity; the toughest router around, and with a brain handicap! Indeed PC 7518 controllers do exactly as you describe.
If it gets critical the machine can be converted to a single speed. Have several of these tools over many production runs; they all have micro-processor problems. Air blow can help.
When they run they are to be respected as they are toughest of all 3 HP tools.
Routers
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