I am about to invest in a scrub plane and have some questions.
Any opinion on wood vs. metal scrub planes? I’ve read that a wood plane will glide over the wood more easily than a metal plane. Is that true? Is it a factor when using a scrub plane? Anybody used the ECE 106-S Scrub?
With the right blade, would a cheap scrub plane work just as well as an expensive one? After all, you’re just asking the plane to hog out wood. Anybody used an old Stanley # 40?
Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer.
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I use a scrub plane alot for getting one side flat before planing. I have both an ECE and a steve knight, I most often grab the steve knight. I do not have a iron scrub so can not give a comparison.
Scott T.
I do not have either.. I have a few old wood and metal planes... I never saw a difference... wood more easily than a metal
I have a Lie-Nielsen scrub plane, which I love. However, for the last couple of weeks, Lee Valley has been selling thier newly released scrub plane for a reduced price; I wouldn't hesitate to try that plane, as their products are consistently good quality, and their customer service is unbeatable. It's inexpensive, and it also has a couple of features that no other scrub plane has. Check it out, I say. That's where I'd go if I didn't already have my L-N.
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=51871&cat=1,41182
Charlie
There is no appreciable difference between a wood scrub and a metal scrub when it comes to the friction of the sole on the wood. The LN is a copy of a Stanley #40. I have the LN and it is a very good tool. I would probably look at the LV if I where buying again. James Bay tool company also has a decent looking metal scrub. So, I would recommend a metal one, and when you get it don't fret about a super sharp blade, it doesn't matter much. Peter
A decade or so ago, I was given an old Craftsman equivalent of a Stanley #4. Having the real deal, I never used the Craftsman. Then, needing a rough fast plane to square up raw chain sawed wood prior to bandsawing into boards, I decided to make a scrub plane out of the rusting Craftsman. I gave the iron a radius, relieved by about 1/8 at the corners, and opened up the throat about 1/16 th more with a file.
The modified Craftsman smoothing plane works fine helping me flatten rough walnut, olive, oak, and eucalyptus billets enough to resaw into rough lumber.
The scrub plane is the crudest plane you'll ever use. Just get a cheap old or new stanley or amant and modify it. You'll better your tool using skills modifying the plane and shaping the iron and you'll have a quite workable scrub plane. Unless the price tag is more important than the result.
SW1*,
Just to offer another opinion. I modified a couple of #3 Stanleys the way Telemiketoo indicated and use those. However, I was blown away with some old wooden planes that I picked up at an auction for about $8-9 each..I use the wooden smoothers with heavy blades and one of those has a convex bottom..talk about hot knife through butter.. only a sharp axe would be faster
I have done the very same thing. It works very well so it makes it hard to justify buying the new veritas scrub
derek
Having tried that with a Stanley #5 (heavily radiused blade) I can testify that compared to a proper scrub plane, there's no comparison. The scrub does the job with brutal efficiency, whereas the Stanley was mediocre at best and then only when grain would permit.
The blade in the L-N scrub is massively thick allowing it to plough through anything that I've enough muscle to drive it through. The Stanley blade would flex into the cut, instantly stalling the momentum. Not exactly the desired effect, and bloody sore on the hands too...Mike Wallace
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I got the ECE scrub plane. I ordered it from Adria Tools. (Fast service!). I really love the tool! Requires amazingly little effort to rough down red oak. Very clean cut and no chatter.
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I have a No 40 Stanley scrub plane and have found it to be very effective .They are a crude tool so buying L-N quality is hardly worthwhile.You should be able to find a user No 40 for a fraction of the L-N
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