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   sschefer | Jun 19, 2002 06:45pm | #1

   Not sure if you saw mine or FWW's review of the PC cordless brad nailer. Weighing in at the same weight as the PC you will find that this nailer gets pretty heavy over the period of use. I would hope that Senco got the balance a little better than PC did. I would put these units in the shop class not job site class of equipment soely because of the weight. I have the PC cordless brad nailer and don't use it nearly as much as I thought I might. In any case, they are a huge improvement over the bammers. I do throw it in the truck when I have a little repair job to do.

   Steve - in Northern California

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   forestgirl | Jun 20, 2002 04:42am | #2

   I heard Steve's story other places also -- the thing just gets very heavy after awhile.  Depends on how you're going to use it I guess.

   forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl   ;-)

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   Adrian | Jun 20, 2002 06:35pm | #3

   You guys ever work all day off a ladder or staging with 25 or 50 feet or more of line hanging off the end of your arm? And then have to hump a compressor all over the place on top of that? And listen to the damn thing all day? That Senco is looking good to me, at less than 3 lbs heavier than a SFN40. If it works, and it probably will.

   To me, this is a jobsite tool.  Corded tools in the shop.cabinetmaker/college instructor. Cape Breton, N.S

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   Adrian | Jun 21, 2002 02:25pm | #4

   No....I almostgot conned into one of those Bammers though....sounded like a good idea, I was prepared to buy one sight unseen, but the dealer couldn't get one. When I actually saw one and got it in my hand, I realised I dodged the bullet. Talk about a misbegotten  engineering disaster.

   If the Senco will set the nails, consistently, in any material,  I'll trade a couple of pounds to be free of airline in a nanosecond. They say the cordless drill is the tool that has most revolutionised the way we work in the last hundred years. I'm hoping for a Senco miracle here.

   cabinetmaker/college instructor. Cape Breton, N.S

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   sschefer | Jun 21, 2002 05:01pm | #5

   Rick, I think the reason the bammer always seems to misfire and run out of fuel unexpectedly is because they leak like a stuck pig. I've heard testimony of folks nearly passing out when working in confined spaces.

   I have the PC cordless. I have used it in the shop and did take it out on a big trim job one day. It only has one battery where the Senco comes with two. Not sure what PC was thinking about there. PC did put a air fitting on it so when it does run out of juice you can hook it up to a compressor. That is, if you didn't leave yours behind at the shop. Because of its weight, by the end of the day, I was dreading picking it up again. I must admit, it is a huge improvement over the Bammer and obviously a valid idea or Senco would not have jumped on the bandwagon so quickly.

   The PC is heavy even without the battery pack and is really poorly balanced with the hose on it. Its not that great with just the batter pack either. In the shop, it is great. Just reach, grab and bam you've tacked that mitre that you were holding together with your other hand.

   Secno has had the sense to include two batteries and thats a big plus. Hopefully they have worked out the balance problems too. The weight is nearly identical so they don't seem to have been able to solve that problem. Also, the price is about 100.00 higher for the Senco. We've always paid more for Senco guns so this probably won't be a deterent to sales but one does have to ask why. Is the second battery really that expensive and if so how much does it cost to buy a replacement?

   Steve - in Northern California

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   PaulParadis | Jun 22, 2002 04:10am | #6

   I tested the Senco cordless at a show, it is junk.  It may work OK for a homeowner, but not for a serious or professional.  If anyone is interested in buying one I suggest you try it hands on first.  The Paslode impulse is still king for finish carpentry work.  I have a 16ga and a 18 ga and both work very nicely.

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   sschefer | Jun 22, 2002 05:57pm | #7

   Rick, I didn't do the review in FWW but I did one on this forum. The results of both reviews were nearly identical. I actually wondered if they used my post for reference, it was that close.

   Steve - in Northern California

   
   

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   Edited 6/22/2002 11:05:23 AM ET by Steve Schefer

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   DougU | Jun 23, 2002 07:19am | #8

   I see a lot of talk of the PC bammers and the senco airless but not much mention of the Paslode Impulse, I use both the angle and the new pin nailer and as long as you clean them regularly they seam fine, never had any problem with either and have been using Impulse for about 4 years now. I would think with senco's reputation though that they would have to be a decent tool.

   Doug

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   sschefer | Jun 23, 2002 07:27am | #9

   You know, now that I think about it, in a few years, the cordless, hoseless, fuelcelless nailers will probably become as common place as the cordlesss driver drills. Right now, they are about as well accepted as dehydrated water. What was you first thought when you grabbed your first black and decker cordless screw driver. Mine was..."what a piece of junk"... So how many driver drills do I have now... Humm.. bout as many as Norm. Ya never know, but at least someone is willing to play out the hand. Glad it was Senco that picked up the torch.Steve - in Northern California

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   Pike2003 | Jul 03, 2002 02:13am | #10

   I have had the bammer for almost a year now and have never had a problem with it. Apparently from reading this thread I may have gotten lucky and not gotten a lemon sort of say with the gas seals. My first job with it paid the bill and more. I may be the only one here to vouch for it seemingly but I only paid around $170.00 (including shipping) for mine from Harbor Freight. Now I am concerned I may not be able to buy cells for it in the future. Bummer you guys     ...Pike... 

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   jeff007 | Jul 07, 2002 08:03am | #11

   I have just bought the new Senco Airless 41 today.  I will do some work with it tomorrow and post the results back here soon.  I'm concerned about what it will do, but my Home Depot salesman said I had 30 days to decide whether or not I wanted to keep it.  Hope it works!

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   uncommontree | Aug 02, 2002 04:43am | #12

   Jeff.

   OK OK the suspense is killin me what is the verdict on the Senco 41. Do you like it, is it up to Senco's reputation, or is it a high priced home owner toy. I cant believe the Senco would not build a top of the line tool. Talk to me. Rick