I’m a little confused. I’m a novice woodworker, in the process of setting up a small shop. I also tend to be a bit of a tool junkie (but seems to be a pretty common aliment around here). The thing that has me confused is that I’ve been looking at router lifts to make a router table. The lifts seem to run in the two to three hundred dollar range, and then you have the expense of building the cabinet. I see that Grizzly makes a 1 1/2 horse shaper for $395. Can anyone tell me if there is a signifigant advantage of one tool over the other? I don’t have a huge shop, and space is always a consideration, but for the money, it seems as though I might as well buy the shaper. I’m just wondering if there’s something obvious that I’m overlooking. Thanks for any imput
Brian
PS- I forgot to mention, have two routers, one is a plunge, which most of the lifts don’t adapt to very well, and the other would require an adapter sleeve. Plus, it seems like a hassle to take the router out for free hand work (albeit a relatively small hassle). Again, it seems like by the time I buy the lumber and the lift, I could buy the shaper.
Edited 3/30/2002 4:49:47 PM ET by BDW13
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Brian a router table would be your best bet unless you are going to be using a lot of big bits. The router can also be used out of the table for alot of free hand work were as the shaper is a little on the heavy side to be used upside down.
Scott C. Frankland
Newfoundland Wood Worker
Hey Scott,
You're right. Shapers don't work all that well upside down. Where in Newfoundland are you ? I'll be spending some time there this summer.
St. John's is where I call home, but I also have a place in Central and on the West coast. What part of the Rock will you be visiting this summer. If ya need anything on this end let me know, I would be more than happy to see what I can do for ya.Scott C. Frankland
Newfoundland Wood Worker
Hi Scott,
My wife and I will be in Trinity on Trinity Bay (Bonavista Peninsular). We live in the States (near Detroit) but have been vacationing in Newfoundland for the past four summers. Can't seem to get enough of the rock.....a very lovely part of the world. While in Trinity we usually make a few trips to "town". We enjoy wandering along Duckworth and Water Street. I'm not much of a night owl but one of these days I'll also have to give George Street a try.
All the best,
Chip
I have a "router versus shaper" article on my web site that might help. To me the real issue is the cutters, not what spins them.
PMB
http://benchmark.20m.com
shapers feature lower spindle speed than a router, which works well for cutters and large bits, but not so well for small diameter bits. Shapers can give you better quality work product because the cutter head has 3 cutting faces vs. 2 for a router bit. A well setup router table is more versatile, due to the nature of variable-speed, high power router motors.
The problem that we get ourselves into is that we think of routers as the poor cousin of the shaper, when in fact they are similar tools for different environments. I went through this debate when I was considering buying a router lift, and like most people, it was the cost issue that made me think about it. But after setting up my table with a Woodpecker PRL and a PC 7518 3hp motor, along with a fence that I made, I don't think twice about not getting a shaper instead. If I ever find myself putting out a lot of cabinet doors, I may think about adding a shaper, but until then my router table will do everything I throw at it.
Thanks Jeff, what you're saying makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the input.
Brian
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