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   RickL | Sep 25, 2006 02:59pm | #1

   What is your application of incannel gouges??? The only field I know that used incannel was the pattern making trade for paring fillets and such. It has it's uses for certain kinds of carving. As far as sharpening it does take a few more minutes than out cannel tools. Lee Valley's book on sharpening should have some info on it. A google search should be a more proactive way to find info instead of waiting for answers in my expereince. I use conical stones  and my dremel tool. It's not that different than sharpening regular tools. Just go at it!

   http://www.woodcraft.com/articles.aspx?articleid=319

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   TaunTonMacoute | Sep 25, 2006 04:39pm | #2

   I use these all the time.  They are THE tool to use for coping frames that have thumbnail and other rounded profiles.

   Use a conical stone on the inside bevel and simply wipe the burr off the outside on a fine stone.  When removing the burr, present the chisel flat to the stone - don't raise  the handle or you will create and unwanted outside bevel which will virtually ruin the chisel for coping purposes as far as I'm concerned.  The method of honing for carving may be different and I'll let the carving experts comment on that. 

   Let me say this about Ashley Iles - don't assume that the way they were ground was intentional.  I ordered an AI mortise chisel and it was completely screwed up - the grinding itself was smooth (no facets, etc.) but the back and the bevel were both bellied and fairly severely so.

   My Two Cherries in-cannel gouges came with no outside bevel whatsover and I believe this should be the way these kind of chisels should be delivered.  It would be up to the user's discretion to change that configuration.

   I know, Two Cherries is more or less a *standard grade* chisel but I've never, ever been disappointed with a TC purchase.  I'm not so sure that some of the volume manufacturers don't have quality control down a little better than some of the boutique makers.

   
   

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   Edited 9/25/2006 1:43 pm ET by TaunTonMacoute

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   Patto | Sep 26, 2006 02:27am | #3

   Thanks for the responses - about as I suspected.

   The sharpening is no problem - just the shape required.

   I bought the gouges because I have bee fiddling with some very difficult sliding dovetails within a 1/3 circle around a 2 1/2" table leg. Finished up actually cutting them with a #5 sweep fishtail gouge from Pfiel (I like their carving tools and saw this initially as more a carving than a joint making challenge).

   This has worked well enough for the first attempt - these joints will only be seen by my family who have a propensity to turn things over to see how they were made. but they have a belly in them from inadequate technique. My thoughts were that an incannel gouge would better pare to a straight line in the same way you can use a chisel with a flat back to pare a tenon.

   Im in no way a brand snob - all my planes and most chisels are Stanley of various ages. The Asly Isles cost me about $38 each as second hand tools - not sure how old they are. So they were not a large investment and helped me bargain a better price on a complete Stanley 45 that I have wanted for a while (I'd rather my 10yr old used this than a router).

   Thanks again

   Dave

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   TaunTonMacoute | Sep 26, 2006 02:51am | #4

   If these chisels were bought uses I suppose it wouldn't be fair to pin the blame on AI.  Somebody probably altered the shape for a specific purpose.