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   frenchy | Oct 31, 2007 02:38am | #1

   joepez,

        I would stain first then use the durability of shellac over the stain.. Stain itself is not very durable.. shellac is

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   HowardAcheson | Oct 31, 2007 03:53am | #2

   If you apply the shellac before staining, the shellac will have sealed the surface and the stain will not be able to be absorbed.

   Apply the stain first, wipe off all the excess, let it dry 48 hours and then apply the shellac.

   Howie.........
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   SteveSchoene | Oct 31, 2007 05:02am | #3

   Yes, as the others have said, stain first then shellac.  The occasional recommendation to use a light wash coat of shellac as a pre-stain conditioner is meant for woods which might otherwise blotch.  Oak is not in that category.  One coat of such a light cut as 1 lb. wouldn't have completely prevented the stain from  adhering but it would have lightened the effect and more likely than not created more problems with uneven staining.  If you want a lighter effect for the stain on oak you can thin the minwax as much as you need using paint thinner. 

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   joepez | Oct 31, 2007 04:20pm | #4

   thanks for your reply and others,

   saves me a step, and on i go.

   thanks again for the great wealth of info at this site.

   joe p in RI

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   Senomozi | Oct 31, 2007 04:50pm | #5

   Hello joepez,

   Minwax oil stain has both pigments and dye.  Sealing the wood with shellac before applying the stain would reduce the dyeing effect but would not have much of an impact on the fact pigments will still lodge themselves in the pores of wood.  In other words, you would end up with a greater than usual contrast between the colour of the latewood (small pores) and the colour of the earlywood (very large pores).

   Regards,

   Senomozi

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   joepez | Nov 01, 2007 08:30pm | #6

   senomozi,

   thank you for that info. i have been doing several test boards and may end up doing a wash coat to achieve that look.

   you put into words what i was seeing with my eyes, and thanks for the reply agian.

   joe p in RI