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   JohnWW | Jan 21, 2004 02:14am | #1

   Bill,

   Planers and jointers make large fluffy shavings that can fill a shop vac in minutes.  Ruuning full bore, jointers and planers also create the shavings faster than the vac can pull them in through the smaller hose.  At some point you are going to need to buy a basic dust collector. 

   The most common style has two bags, one above the other, and takes up a space of about 2 foot by 3 foot.  Many of the collectors come with casters so they are easy to move around.  Jet has a new model with a canister instead of bags that has gotten good reviews.

   John W.

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   BG | Jan 21, 2004 04:46am | #2

   Bill,

   As John indicated, the shop vac will fill up very quickly...and a pain to empty.  You can get the 4x2.5 adapters from WWWarehouse...not sure is Woodcraft has them, but they are available...I have three.

   Recently (last week) I bought the Jet cyclone top (I think that is what its called) at a significant discount when WWW was closing...Grizzly has them on sale on their web site (smaller version).  This connects to a 4" outlet and after dropping the chips in a trash can then goes thru the 4x2.5 reducer to the shop vac.  So far I have only used it on the BS and Planer...it has worked well on the planer...

   
   

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   Edited 1/20/2004 8:59:38 PM ET by BG

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   jvs | Jan 21, 2004 05:00am | #3

    I don't know about the stuff put out by your jointer, but I use a Veritas Cyclone (http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?page=30282&category=1,42401&ccurrency=2&SID=) as the "first stage" with a 7.5 amp Shop Vac and 12 1/2" DeWalt, and it does fine--no problem keeping up at all. You can get the adapter fittings anywhere; I got the 4" version and run 4" from the planer to the cyclone and 2 1/2" from the cyclone to the vac.

   /jvs

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   Drose | Jan 21, 2004 07:51am | #4

   Haven't used a dust collector on my jointer yet.  Just a box to catch the dust .

   Build your own dust collector from bill pentz's website.  easier than it sounds.  im 300 dollars into it and over halfway there.  5 hp motor and 1900 cfm.

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   dirtstirrer | Jan 22, 2004 03:14am | #7

   Dustin, did you build your own fan, or buy one?  I'm getting ready to put a cyclone system together with odds and ends.  About $300 in too.  Not as much CFM though. Steve

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   Drose | Jan 22, 2004 08:35am | #8

   bought an airfoil fan from sheldons engineering, a firm in canada.  cost me 150 or so.  looks to be good quality, good welds etc.  They have a web page with no information about the fan that I got.  they dont take credit cards, so you have to mail a check.  ordering details are on bill pentz's website

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   dirtstirrer | Jan 22, 2004 10:27am | #9

   I'm trying mine with an AF centrifugal fan I got on Ebay with a Baldwin motor.  Got an old corn sheller with a cyclone that matches Bill's cyclone specs, and a bunch of 6" pipe.  It all sounds a little haphazard, but it just might work.Steve

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   RandMCapozzi | Jan 21, 2004 04:35pm | #5

   Bill,

   I used my 8gal Sears shop vac with my 12.5" planer for several years while my "shop" was in our single car garage. I was able to get by ok with this setup. The shop vac was able to keep up with the planer but did fill up very quickly.

   In my case, the planer came with a 4" to 2 1/2" reducer. Reducers are available at a number of spots. Woodcraft carries them as well as Penn State Industries, Rockler, Amazon, etc. 

   While this setup was far from ideal, it took up a small foot print (fit under my TS table) which for me was critical. I needed to be able to pack everything up to allow the car to park in the garage at night and an actual DC was just gonna be to large.

   Good luck and enjoy your new toys!

   --Rob

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   billballeza | Jan 22, 2004 12:07am | #6

   Thanks, Rob.. and others who responded to this inquiry. I just got back to work after purchasing a Delta 1hp single stage collector from a local woodworking outlet called The Cutting Edge here in Houston.

   It was $175 but most people I have consulted on this matter agreed that while a shop vac would suffice, sort of, a planer or a jointer would fill a shop vac in nanoseconds.. and not very efficiently at that.

   Thanks for the input.

   Bill