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1. 
   TomMGTC | Feb 11, 2003 01:03am | #1

   I don't think you're going to have much luck filling that order. I have about 1000 bd ft of walnut that has been air dried for 30 years and none of it come even close to the size you are looking for.

   Tom
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   floman47 | Feb 11, 2003 01:49am | #2

   Hi John

    It's going to be hard to find 18" wide.  You will probably will have to get 9" x 80" and glue it up.  Try Keven at Austin and see if he can order it for you.

   Austin 714 953-4000

   Strata 714 751-0800

   Reel 714 632-1988

   Mac Beath 800 325-2170

   Lane Stanton 818 968-8331

   Ganal 714 556-1500

   Penberthy 310-835-6222

   Jeff in so cal

   72 f---31%

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   Elcoholic | Feb 11, 2003 03:11am | #3

   Austin is where I looked Saturday - nothing even close.  The customer really wants it to be 1 piece or at least I'll have to do an exhaustive search before I go back to her.  Only 1 10 footer of 8/4 almost 9" wide.  It would have run $6 plus per b/f and most of it will be waste.  I'll have to call around and maybe I'll get lucky.  Every try Goby they advertise in FWW.  There's a couple of places on your list I haven't dealt with.  Thanks for the info. John O'Connell - JKO Handcrafted Woodworking

   Life is tough.  It's tougher if you're stupid - John Wayne

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   UncleDunc | Feb 11, 2003 03:27am | #5

   Make sure she knows you're going to charge her for the search time, whether or not you find what she's looking for.

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   fdampier5 | Feb 11, 2003 09:31pm | #9

   Of course it gets that big.

     Mine is all spoken for but I have no problem getting 22 inches wide and up to 19 feet long.. If one side will go to 22 inches you can bet your bippy that the other will too. thus 22 x 22 is available.   There is a sawmill in La cresent Minnesota that can saw 38"x38"

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   BiotechBill | Feb 11, 2003 03:27am | #4

   John,

   Give Walt a call at Bohnhoff Lumber (323-263-9361)

   3411 E 26th St
   Los Angeles, CA

   South of the 5 freeway near Soto and 26th. If he can't help you no one can. They also have great QS white oak.

   Dr. Bill

4. 
   johnhardy | Feb 11, 2003 03:41am | #6

   John,

   I have lots of old air dried black walnut (I put an advert in the classified section). You're welcome to come over and help me sort through the pile. I may have a piece that wide and that thick. I also have some new air dried walnut that I know isn't 18 inches wide but it's 16/4 and if you ripped it you'd have a bookmatched piece. That might even be better, both from an aesthetic viewpoint and from a structural viewpoint.

   I'm located in Marina del Rey.

   My e-mail is [email protected].

   John

   
   

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   Edited 2/10/2003 7:42:05 PM ET by johnhardy

5. 
   Jamie_Buxton | Feb 11, 2003 04:11am | #7

   Walnut does too get that big.   If you can't find what you need down in la-la land, up here in northern california there are some sources for walnut that big.   I saw slabs substantially larger than that at Jim Baker's mill a couple weeks ago (http://www.bakerhardwoods.com/).  He had one collection of slabs from a tree that must have been 5 feet in diameter.  I've seen big slabs at http://www.woodnut.com/ and http://www.wineland-walnut.com/, but haven't checked either one with my own eyes recently.   In all cases, be prepared for sticker shock.

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   NOTRIX1 | Feb 11, 2003 07:53am | #8

   I Thought I saw some at Cut And Dried Hardwood in Solana Beach, about 15 miles north of San Diego, today-Monday Feb 10th. Not squared up but slabs that were semi s2s. My recollection is about48-60 inches by about 24".

   Wasn't lookin' real close though.

   HTH

   N

7. 
   fdampier5 | Feb 11, 2003 09:34pm | #10

   Actually I do have an extra piece of 22"x 120" 8/4 decent straight grain (boring)  but I've air dried it and it's less than 6 months old... too soon to be ready..

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   Elcoholic | Feb 11, 2003 10:33pm | #11

   Thanks, I've got a few more places to look/call thanks to you all.John O'Connell - JKO Handcrafted Woodworking

   Life is tough.  It's tougher if you're stupid - John Wayne

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   foghorn | Feb 12, 2003 01:37am | #12

   Sorry, but this won't be of much help to you. The words "black walnut" in your post caught my eye. Here

   I have a black walnut tree that serves as a boundary marker between my property (I'm in NJ) and my neighbor. From a non-woodworking point of view, it is a huge PITA. it has got to be the filthiest tree there is, it ruins the grass and something in its root system interferes with my wife's garden which is about 40 feet away. For these and other reasons, I have often thought of asking my neighbor how he would feel about taking it down.

   Reading your post made me wonder if it was valuable (excuse the ignorance). It is well over a hundred feet tall. Its base which runs up about ten feet or more before the main branches split off is at least 4 to 5 feet in diameter. The main branches I mentioned  are 30 to 50 feet long and 1 to 3 feet in diameter.

   Do you think a local sawmill would be interested in taking it down and paying for the privilege?

   Thanks for any feedback

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   johnhardy | Feb 12, 2003 03:12am | #13

   I suspect this tree is worth a fortune in finished wood. You're nuts if you let someone chop it down and take it away for something like $500. At least that's my opinion.

   I'm not sure what's normal, but I'd think you could arrange a deal where they take it down, saw it up, run it through a kiln, and give you X percentage back as payment. There's a lot of gold in that tree.

   And the reason you're having trouble with the lawn and garden is that walnut is pretty toxic. Not sure what the chemical actually is, but it's not a surprise to me that this is the result.

   John

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   foghorn | Feb 12, 2003 04:43am | #14

   John:

   As always, great feedback. Many thanks.

   Will definitely keep the info in mind.

   Regards 

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   4stree | Feb 14, 2003 01:11am | #22

   Greetings,

   I am new to this message board, but it is interesting to see a discussion of eastern black walnut from CA and NJ.  I'm from Missouri, and black walnut has been promoted here for generations (Missouri is the home of Hammon's products, the only commercial processor of black walnut nutmeats).

   Since we're on the subject of black walnut (I assume eastern black walnut), the toxic chemicals found in the black walnut include tannins and other quinone compounds such as juglandin, juglone, and juglandic acid.  The most common compound blamed for killing surrounding vegetation is juglone. 

   The reason I am interested in this message board is because I have a very large black walnut burl to sell, but I don't know how to go about marketing it.  Any suggestions?

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   johnhardy | Feb 14, 2003 01:47am | #23

   There's a classified section of Knots, and you could post it there. You could also try eBay.

   John

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   fdampier5 | Feb 12, 2003 04:55am | #15

   Local stumpage price (that's what sawmills pay for a tree that is standing) varies a bit but around 70 cents a bd. ft. would be a real premium.

         Since it's on the property line though,  a lot of sawyers will be very frightened of it.. If someone had a wire fence attached to it or things were nailed to it,  it can ruin a lot of wood, plus make sawing very dangerous.   for that reason alone most will lowball it..

        I know what you mean,  the tannins in Black walnut will kill the grass and anything around it, it's one of the most messy trees out there, first to shed it's leaves and last to grow them.   I've got a 40 footer growing in my yard and I'm making special efforts to keep things growing under it..

       If there is any burl in it, you may have a valuable tree there if not it still may be worth something..

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   foghorn | Feb 12, 2003 06:45pm | #16

   No fences or anything else around it . We have been here 19 years so no nails during that time. I have a feeling the tree was planted about 60 years ago as a boundary marker.

   Again, forgive my ignorance, but what exactly is a "burl"?

   Thanks for the feedback.

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   fdampier5 | Feb 12, 2003 07:25pm | #17

   A black walnut of that size would take well over a hundred years to grow. and a burl is where the grain of the wood twists and turns producing wild grain patterns.  You can detect it from the outside if you look for one of two things. 

     either a large lump like a big wart on the side of the trunk, or by thousands of tiny little twiglets sticking out all over the trunk.

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   foghorn | Feb 13, 2003 02:13am | #20

   Thanks for the info.

   Maybe the tree was here before they sub divided an old farm in the late 1930s.

   Regards

   Mike

4. 
   UncleDunc | Feb 12, 2003 07:49pm | #18

   raw: http://www.nhardwoods.com/images2/burl_walnut3.jpg

   cooked: http://www.prisma4.com/images/CharlotteImages/Daphne1sm.jpg

5. 
   foghorn | Feb 13, 2003 02:16am | #21

   I definitely prefer cooked.

   Many thanks

   Mike

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   JHARDE02 | Feb 12, 2003 09:54pm | #19

   Try Reel in Riverside.  They have a fair selection of extra wide boards.

   Regards,

   John