Source for Patternmaker’s Chisels
jazzdogg
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If anyone knows of a source from which I can obtain high-quality patternmaker’s chisels, I’d appreciate a heads-up.
Thanks,
-Jazzdogg-
“Don’t ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come alive, and go do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive.” Gil Bailie
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What is the main difference between a pattern makers chisel and say a cabinet makers chisel.Rock
As Hammer suggested, they're long and slender: perfect for removing the waste from long, hand-cut, sliding dovetails.-Jazzdogg-
"Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come alive, and go do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive." Gil Bailie
The Japan woodworker has a great selection of chisels.Go to japan woodworker on your browser.Let me know what you think.Rick
perfect for removing the waste from long, hand-cut, sliding dovetails.As in MY ROUTER?
That would be the Stanley No 71?
Maybe I'm all wet about this, but I just came into some patter maker's chisels, as a gift from my wife's family, her grandfather having been a patter maker for steel mills in the Pittsburg area. They are not just long. The gouges are beveled on the in-canal, or on the top if you prefer, and there is a curve after the handle so that the flat strait bottom of the tool is offset from the handle. There are also several slender strait tools that are fan shaped, widening just at the end, with top bevels to get into narrow areas and clean out waste without requiring a low angle of approach.
You are correct. I bought a box of them about 15 yeas ago when the local university liquidated surplus from their discontinued foundry. The tang was almost S shaped and the handle was offset more than what is sold as a cranked neck chisel nowadays. I bought more than 15 tools and all were gouges of some sort. If they had any chisels someone else got them. Bought a box of shrink rules too, compulsive I guess.
Thats interesting.I've been doing woodwork for a log time buy never came accross a pattern chisel.There is a chisel style similar to what you are talking about in the japan woodworker,ground on the top edge and bent.there called Incanal gooseneck Gouges.It says there great for cleaning out long grooves.Probably not the same but interesting.Thanks for the info.Rick
I think you'll have to keep your eye open for some old patternmakers chisels from sources like Patrick Leach and others. Do you subscribe to Patrick's monthly tool list? Both Henry Taylor and Robert Sorby make long, thin bladed paring chisels that should fill the bill. The first site below looks like it has one old chisel.
http://www.hansbrunnertools.gil.com.au/StanleyUsers-7.htm
http://www.thebestthings.com/newtools/sorby_paring.htm
http://www.thebestthings.com/newtools/henry_taylor_paring.htm
Beat it to fit / Paint it to match
Gracias, Hammer!-Jazzdogg-
"Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come alive, and go do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive." Gil Bailie
" Do you subscribe to Patrick's monthly tool list?"
Hammer,
Sounds intriguing! Please tell me more!
Thanks,-Jazzdogg-
"Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come alive, and go do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive." Gil Bailie
http://www.supertool.com
There is a link there to subscribe to Patrick's monthly tool list. It varies monthly, but usually a couple hundred great old tools. Kind of fun to watch his son grow up too. Makes me feel old. Subscribe, you'll see what I mean.
Steve
Thanks, Steve!
-Jazzdogg-
"Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come alive, and go do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive." Gil Bailie
Ditto,
We look foward to it comming out, dont think I would ever buy - shipping would kill me for the users I am likely to want, but you do learn a bit about relative value and the names of soe pretty wierd things.
Just fun to peruse isn't it. I get a kick out of the brands you never hear of. There is some quirky stuff circulating about. Shipping could be worse, US to UK is about twice US to AU for everything I've ever inquired about.
Steve
Hi Jazz,
Traditional Woodworker has some patternmaker's chisels, in-cannel gouges-both straight and crank-neck.
http://www.traditionalwoodworker.com/default.php?cPath=39_171_219
David C
I can hardly contain my feelings of glee at the terrific replies from fellow knotheads.
Thanks to all,-Jazzdogg-
"Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come alive, and go do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive." Gil Bailie
Jazz,
I am an old chisel fan, and hove found that patternmaker's chisels, or crank necks, are very hard to find on the used market. I am in Pa., which is a good location for rust hunting. I wish you the best of luck. If a dealer is selling a Witherby for $15, which is pretty fair, he will ask 25-30 for a crankneck. The gouges are easier to find, in my experience.Alan
http://www.alanturnerfurnituremaker.com
Hi Alan,
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience on this subject; it's easy to go from knee deep to chest deep when I venture into relatively esoteric new woodworking territory
-Jazzdogg-
"Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come alive, and go do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive." Gil Bailie
You might try Kindt-Collins or freeman supply. They both serve the pattern making business.
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