Friends,
I was hoping to ellicit opinions about the #80. My shop teacher in highschool had one . I have never gotten the thing to work properly. A cabinet maker friend of mine made a sour face when I mentioned this to him and told me it wasn’t worth the effort. I see an article in the latest FWW about this. What’s the vote on this one? Is it worth the couple of hours it is going to take me to tune this up?
Regards,
Frank
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Great tool and only takes a couple minutes to tune up and use. I clamp the blade in a vise, use a mill file to shape the 45 degree bevel, diamond stone to polish the bevel and flat face, use a burnisher to turn over the hook, affix the blade in the tool, use the adjustment screw to put a little "belly" in it and go to town making feathery shavings. Whole procedure from start to finish takes less than 120 seconds. If a ham-handed galoot like me can learn to do it, anybody can. Good luck.
I agree completely with Ed. The #80 is a fatastic tool, and one of the easiest out there to tune. They're great for flushing up cabinets to faces, etc..... and a great deal more.
Jeff
Yep, another vote for the #80 and its spin-offs like the LV one. I have both a Stanley and the LV. I probably use the LV one more on larger surfaces as the sole is a bit larger.
But regardless, they are incredibly simple tools which can do incredibly great work.
Take care, Mike
My 80 was another flea market find, Worth every bit of $15. Easy to use and sure saves on sore thumbs, use it on prolonged scraping. Generally use the cards for quick jobs.Work Safe, Count to 10 when your done for the day !!
Bruce S.
I also have an old '80' and the LV knockoff. I like them both and agree that the extra little bit of sole on the LV is helpful in many cases.John
Ok,
I will give it a try!
Thanks
Frank
Interjecting another thumbs up here. Fabulous tool (properly set-up of course)
Regards, Sean
One more to pile on.
I don't think there is any project I have done in the last 5 years that I haven't used my #80. I would be lost without it.
Cal
That #80 is a very good thing, and not hard to get it working , you don't even have to have the edge at 45 degrees, but try this out first as it may suit you. You can have one end of the blade prepared at 45 degrees and the other done like a card scraper, in effect giving you 3 edges to use before a re-sharpen.
Then there is the #81 which looks very nice but is limited in use compared to the #80-this is because it has no facility to bow the blade, but it does have a bigger base, it is good for fine shavings.
But there is still nowt to beat the ordinary hand held card scraper, which is far more versatile.
What is it that you want to tune up?
I have two Stanley #80s and a Stanley #112 (with LN blade). When I need a scraper I use a card scraper. The #80 is primarily used for glue lines.
While the #80 is potentially a good tool, over-zealous use of it is easy and this can damage your wood surface. The depth control is basically the central screw that adds/reduces camber. Camber in the blade cuts a cambered pattern in the wood surface. Even though this may be very shallow and invisible to the eye, it can be felt and, especially, seen at the right angle against the light.
I have the same concerns about card scrapers when strongly cambered by thumbs in a forward stroke. Better is a pull stroke since this keeps the blade fairly straight.
Regards from Perth
Derek
"The depth control is basically the central screw that adds/reduces camber. Camber in the blade cuts a cambered pattern in the wood surface."
Depth control on the #80 is where you set the blade, the same as a metal spokeshave without depth adjusters. Try resting it on a sheet or two of paper so the blade can drop beside the paper when setting the blade depth.
The screw adjusts camber and the depth in the center after the basic blade depth is set.
I have to agree with you, Derek. Your scraper blade is held at a specific angle with the #80. If you don't get the curl just right, it doesn't cut well. With a card scraper, you can adjust the tilt and feel the cut. You can also put as much or as little bend in, as you proceed. The #80 absolutely leaves scorped out areas, particularly in species with varying hardness between summer and winter wood. I don't find the handle configuration easy to use, either. The #80 will also let go and skip across the surface making wonderful track marks. This is it's worst issue. You can't finesse it on a skew when working difficult grain, touch just a small area or get into many places. I don't even use mine for glue clean up, it's just a display item.Beat it to fit / Paint it to match
Hammer,
I made a coffee table last year from a slab of Blakely's Gum, which Derek will be familiar with. I dont have a high pitched plane, and I do understand that the HNT Gordon planes are excellent for this, but I found my Veritas #80 copy saved my bacon on this top. The timber is finely grained with a lot of 'wiggle' and very hard. I nearly made a mess with a belt sander before switching to the scraper. I have also used it successfully on some river red gum, although my standard pitch stanleys work on this timber.
It doesnt get used often, but...
Dave
I have three and use them all the time.
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